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Message: [QUOTE="mauconnfan, post: 3542639, member: 489"] For those who would love to crap on Torre because he had some great players that's fine I get it. But much like those who crap on KO for "winning the 2014 NC" with JC's players Torre was a genius with his teams like it or not. The culture of being a true Yankee like Jeter, Rivera, Pettite, Posada, Williams and a few others during his successful run was accentuated by his ability to bring players in and create the necessary atmosphere for them to feel at home, change their ways even maybe to fit. It was pretty amazing to bring in guys like O'Neill, Duncan, Curtis, Hayes, Brosius, Polonia and so many others to help round out those winning teams. I get it they were good teams but sometimes there's a reason they still need to be managed and he was one of the truly good managers over the years without a doubt. Pretty sure Mo can't get saves without leads after all. LOL [/QUOTE]