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Message: [QUOTE="Orangutan, post: 3091851, member: 4946"] The constant in the dysfunction and poor play year after year is Holly. Driving away more talented players isn't going to change that. Hayes, Cooper, DeShields, and Westbrook have all been identified as the problem at various times. But no matter who goes, the unrest remains. She can't get talented players to play well. If she runs off the the talented players for disloyalty, she'll just have untalented players playing poorly. Winning has a way of fixing off the court issues. Get a coach who can cultivate the players' talents properly and suddenly these off-the-court issues will go away... [/QUOTE]