Salvation Army

[Confident Carl]

"Welcome to the Salvation Army. I've never been associated with an offense so nice about giving the ball away" Hayden Fry 1979

In sticking with my belief that Diaco albeit in his own way, is following the Hayden Fry model, I found this quote by Fry very appropriate for the gifts our offense has provided in the first 4 games. They were calling for Hayden Fry's job his first two years in Iowa. Turning this ship around will not be easy. I can only think that the USF ground control game plan was a preventive measure based on injuries, downpour and terrible offensive line play. 4 first quarter give aways leading to tourchdowns (yes tourch, my new word) in first four games reminded me of what Hayden Fry said his first year at Iowa:
Coach
by Carol Harker

Win or lose, Hayden Fry, head coach of the football Hawkeyes since 1979, is likely to have something memorable to say. When he came to Iowa, the coach promised fans that "we'll take what the other team gives us. We'll scratch where it itches."

1989: Hayden Fry poses in front of Nile Kinnick memorabilia.
After the Buckeyes slammed Iowa in a 34-7 contest that first season, Hayden told the media: "Welcome to the Salvation Army. I've never been associated with an offense so nice about giving the ball away."

Fry's premier seasons at Iowa weren't easy. Though the team suffered some real shellackings during the first two years, reasons to celebrate began to multiply in 1981. As Hayden told fans after Iowa beat Nebraska, 10-7, on September 12: "If you stay with this game long enough, the worm is bound to turn."

We were all embarrassed by the Friday night slopfest in Tampa. We are going to hang tough through this.
I am going to give HCBD and staff some slack and see what unfolds. Going to give him some time to prove himself once he recruits, trains and develops more talented players. I hope I can make it through the East Carolina game. I will be in Greenville!

 

[BNich]

Four straight games with a 1st quarter turnover that lead to 7 direct points. Unbelievable. I thought Friday was going to be the game they got over that hump. I was sadly mistaken on the opening drive. Can't wait to see what it'll be this week.

 

[Bonehead]

I would hope we would have done better than Hayden Fry - Fry had a few good years but overall his ability to win yearly was NOT there - we have/had a chance to own the AAC.

1979 Iowa 11 5 6 0 .455 7.26 8.08
1980 Iowa 11 4 7 0 .364 1.45 5.72
1981 Iowa 12 8 4 0 .667 11.41 6.08 6 18 Rose Bowl-L
1982 Iowa 12 8 4 0 .667 6.62 5.54 Peach Bowl-W
1983 Iowa 12 9 3 0 .750 13.98 4.31 16 4 14 Gator Bowl-L
1984 Iowa 13 8 4 1 .654 10.18 2.10 12 5 16 Freedom Bowl-W
1985 Iowa 12 10 2 0 .833 16.48 4.23 4 1 10 Rose Bowl-L
1986 Iowa 12 9 3 0 .750 9.31 0.98 8 16 Holiday Bowl-W
1987 Iowa 13 10 3 0 .769 11.16 1.78 16 16 16 Holiday Bowl-W
1988 Iowa 13 6 4 3 .577 6.58 0.43 9 9 Peach Bowl-L
1989 Iowa 11 5 6 0 .455 -1.98 3.02 23 23
1990 Iowa 12 8 4 0 .667 12.89 5.39 6 18 Rose Bowl-L
1991 Iowa 12 10 1 1 .875 11.18 0.76 18 7 10 Holiday Bowl-T
1992 Iowa 12 5 7 0 .417 1.31 5.23 16 16
1993 Iowa 12 6 6 0 .500 0.22 3.39 Alamo Bowl-L
1994 Iowa 11 5 5 1 .500 5.70 6.24
1995 Iowa 12 8 4 0 .667 11.21 4.79 18 25 Sun Bowl-W
1996 Iowa 12 9 3 0 .750 13.65 5.32 22 18 18 Alamo Bowl-W
1997 Iowa 12 7 5 0 .583 8.77 -0.81 21 11 Sun Bowl-L
1998 Iowa 11 3 8 0 .273 -3.65 5.08

You know this board - everyone would be calling for change with these types of win/lose records.

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that string of years would be hell here...

 

[Confident Carl]

I would hope we would have done better than Hayden Fry - Fry had a few good years but overall his ability to win yearly was NOT there - we have/had a chance to own the AAC.

1979 Iowa 11 5 6 0 .455 7.26 8.08
1980 Iowa 11 4 7 0 .364 1.45 5.72
1981 Iowa 12 8 4 0 .667 11.41 6.08 6 18 Rose Bowl-L
1982 Iowa 12 8 4 0 .667 6.62 5.54 Peach Bowl-W
1983 Iowa 12 9 3 0 .750 13.98 4.31 16 4 14 Gator Bowl-L
1984 Iowa 13 8 4 1 .654 10.18 2.10 12 5 16 Freedom Bowl-W
1985 Iowa 12 10 2 0 .833 16.48 4.23 4 1 10 Rose Bowl-L
1986 Iowa 12 9 3 0 .750 9.31 0.98 8 16 Holiday Bowl-W
1987 Iowa 13 10 3 0 .769 11.16 1.78 16 16 16 Holiday Bowl-W
1988 Iowa 13 6 4 3 .577 6.58 0.43 9 9 Peach Bowl-L
1989 Iowa 11 5 6 0 .455 -1.98 3.02 23 23
1990 Iowa 12 8 4 0 .667 12.89 5.39 6 18 Rose Bowl-L
1991 Iowa 12 10 1 1 .875 11.18 0.76 18 7 10 Holiday Bowl-T
1992 Iowa 12 5 7 0 .417 1.31 5.23 16 16
1993 Iowa 12 6 6 0 .500 0.22 3.39 Alamo Bowl-L
1994 Iowa 11 5 5 1 .500 5.70 6.24
1995 Iowa 12 8 4 0 .667 11.21 4.79 18 25 Sun Bowl-W
1996 Iowa 12 9 3 0 .750 13.65 5.32 22 18 18 Alamo Bowl-W
1997 Iowa 12 7 5 0 .583 8.77 -0.81 21 11 Sun Bowl-L
1998 Iowa 11 3 8 0 .273 -3.65 5.08

You know this board - everyone would be calling for change with these types of win/lose records.

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that string of years would be hell here...

You are kidding right? Do you have any idea how much Hayden Fry is revered in Ohio and the college coaching community? This is Iowa who plays Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Wisconsin, etc. They went to a Rose Bowl and 14 bowls and 3 Rose Bowls, please tell me your post was a joke!

http://www.press-citizen.com/story/...yes-flock-fryfest-honor-hayden-frry/14854819/

 

[Bonehead]

You are kidding right? Do you have any idea how much Hayden Fry is revered in Ohio and the college coaching community? This is Iowa who plays Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Wisconsin, etc. They went to a Rose Bowl and 14 bowls and 3 Rose Bowls, please tell me your post was a joke!

http://www.press-citizen.com/story/...yes-flock-fryfest-honor-hayden-frry/14854819/

Last I checked I live in CT - I dont care what happens in Ohio - and not kidding. You should set your sights higher than Hayden Fry - but if you are happy with his accomplishments than I can see why you liked PP as a hire as well -

So what you are saying with your 'they play so and so' is if we get into the Big 10 you are content with 5 and 6 win seasons...again he had a couple of stellar years but no consistency - think bigger.

Obviously years will tell who is right - you like the fact that BD came from the Fry coaching tree - he doesnt get my blood pumping - sorry.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

In the fall of 1981 I was dating a girl whose mother was an Iowa grad and who had extended family still living there. Iowa spent a lot of the 1960's and most of the 1970's as a mediocre at best football program and (until Earl Bruce left to replace Woody Hayes at Ohio St) was dopminated for most of the 1970's by Iowa State. Making it to the Rose Bowl that year was a monumental accomplishment for that program (it can be equated to Mississippi winning the SEC).

 

[Confident Carl]

Last I checked I live in CT - I dont care what happens in Ohio - and not kidding. You should set your sights higher than Hayden Fry - but if you are happy with his accomplishments than I can see why you liked PP as a hire as well -

So what you are saying with your 'they play so and so' is if we get into the Big 10 you are content with 5 and 6 win seasons...again he had a couple of stellar years but no consistency - think bigger.

Obviously years will tell who is right - you like the fact that BD came from the Fry coaching tree - he doesnt get my blood pumping - sorry.

I meant Iowa not Ohio. BH - You are entitled to your opinon. No one knows for sure but a lot more goes into a program than the avg fan has the capability of understanding. I am not in love with Hayden Fry. I am learning about him because that's the basis for HCBD's coaching along with the Stoops Bros. and many others in the tree. The more I learn about Fry and Diaco, the more faith I have in the long term prospects. I am not looking for instant success. There is no such thing.

 

[pj]

That's a highly successful coaching record. Of course Pasqualoni had a successful coaching record at Syracuse.

 

[Bonehead]

In the fall of 1981 I was dating a girl whose mother was an Iowa grad and who had extended family still living there. Iowa spent a lot of the 1960's and most of the 1970's as a mediocre at best football program and (until Earl Bruce left to replace Woody Hayes at Ohio St) was dopminated for most of the 1970's by Iowa State. Making it to the Rose Bowl that year was a monumental accomplishment for that program (it can be equated to Mississippi winning the SEC).

Sort of like when UConn when to the Fiesta Bowl - How I yearn for the Good Ole Days...