Sad story all around about former UConn Offensive Lineman Mike Ryan

[huskymedic]

Background:

Mike Ryan in serious accident... prayers needed.

Any updates on Mike Ryan?

Update on Mike Ryan.

 

[BlueMAB]

Two years? Jeez. get the guy in a program, he's not going to get the help he needs in jail.

 

[huskymedic]

Two years? Jeez. get the guy in a program, he's not going to get the help he needs in jail.

Yeah... already caught one "break" it seems. Former Marian football star returns to prison. Shame - tough to break the cycle.

 

[Pudge]

Poorly written story.

I have to guess at what was going on with the officer getting stitches; and why the Dollar Store contained a cop chasing him for a candy bar. The earlier DUI etc incident appears to be the hard case. In his hometown, they quickly got 2 more charges to send him away for significant time.

Sad.

 

[uconnbill]

He needs treatment not jail.

My prayers are that he gets the help he needs.

 

[noeynox]

Sad story, but if the judge tells you don't come back, you might want to listen.

Who knows what he has going on, he played high level football and was in a serious car accident.

I'm just about positive programs have been offered.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Sad story, but if the judge tells you don't come back, you might want to listen.

Who knows what he has going on, he played high level football and was in a serious car accident.

I'm just about positive programs have been offered.

Seriously. The more and more I see these guys that were once football players that seemed to have their heads on straight and then take a nose dive.... It's sad and scary to see and just wonder whether all those hits causedbor played a part in this.

 

[formerlurker]

Ohio is a rampant with stories like this, as are too many states in this great country.

I have no clue if this is opioid related but it has all of the red flags.

I've never shared this before on the BY but there was a point in my life where I represented the local company who manufactures the drug that is responsible for a large percentage of this problem. They have a patent on a drug that works miracles for cancer patients and those with chronic pain. But, there is a flaw in the delivery system that allows you to crush the tablets, snort or inject them and receive 24 hours of pain medicine in an instant. Pretty much Russian roulette in a pill.

I had been in the pharmaceutical industry for years and helped launch several billion dollar drugs that changed the world in a positive way. Including Viagra!

One day, a recruiter called me and asked if I wanted to sell this specific pain killer and make 10x more than I was. I grabbed the cash. About 18 months in I realized this drug was straight up killing more people than it helped. Eventually it was all over the news. I broke down one night knowing I was making stupid money at the expense of others. I called my parents, told them where my head was at and how lost I was feeling. My Mother told me they had been reading the same articles about the deaths and were expecting my call at some point. My Dad offered me a job making 1/4 of what I had been and I immediately accepted and drove home. My boss called me the next day asking where I was and I told him he'd find my company car in a commuter lot near Danbury Airport and hung up.

That was 20 years ago and I've owned my own successful business for that past 16. Not a day goes by that I don't regret marketing that poison to the public and that's a huge part of why I feel a strong need to give back today.

Sorry for the long diatribe but I want it known that if prescription pain pills are Mike's vice, he had almost no chance the first time he found a crooked doctor to refill a script he only needed once. Sadly, although he's one of our own and we feel a certain connection, he's simply a statistic in this day and age. If anyone knows him personally, please PM me as I'd like to help in some way.

 

[SubZero]

A few years in prison might do him some good since getting chance after chance didn't seem to be working.

 

[Kgun7]

Ohio is a rampant with stories like this, as are too many states in this great country.

I have no clue if this is opioid related but it has all of the red flags.

I've never shared this before on the BY but there was a point in my life where I represented the local company who manufactures the drug that is responsible for a large percentage of this problem. They have a patent on a drug that works miracles for cancer patients and those with chronic pain. But, there is a flaw in the delivery system that allows you to crush the tablets, snort or inject them and receive 24 hours of pain medicine in an instant. Pretty much Russian roulette in a pill.

I had been in the pharmaceutical industry for years and helped launch several billion dollar drugs that changed the world in a positive way. Including Viagra!

One day, a recruiter called me and asked if I wanted to sell this specific pain killer and make 10x more than I was. I grabbed the cash. About 18 months in I realized this drug was straight up killing more people than it helped. Eventually it was all over the news. I broke down one night knowing I was making stupid money at the expense of others. I called my parents, told them where my head was at and how lost I was feeling. My Mother told me they had been reading the same articles about the deaths and were expecting my call at some point. My Dad offered me a job making 1/4 of what I had been and I immediately accepted and drove home. My boss called me the next day asking where I was and I told him he'd find my company car in a commuter lot near Danbury Airport and hung up.

That was 20 years ago and I've owned my own successful business for that past 16. Not a day goes by that I don't regret marketing that poison to the public and that's a huge part of why I feel a strong need to give back today.

Sorry for the long diatribe but I want it known that if prescription pain pills are Mike's vice, he had almost no chance the first time he found a crooked doctor to refill a script he only needed once. Sadly, although he's one of our own and we feel a certain connection, he's simply a statistic in this day and age. If anyone knows him personally, please PM me as I'd like to help in some way.

Lurker: Thanks for sharing. A lot of us read the BY for more than UCONN Football. I'm sure you don't regret it for a second. To a fellow Yarder: well done!

 

[BlueMAB]

A few years in prison might do him some good since getting chance after chance didn't seem to be working.

Nope.

www.nij.gov/topics/corrections/recidivism/Pages/welcome.aspx

"Within three years of release, about two-thirds (67.8 percent) of released prisoners were rearrested. Within five years of release, about three-quarters (76.6 percent) of released prisoners were rearrested. Of those prisoners who were rearrested, more than half (56.7 percent) were arrested by the end of the first year."

Sooner or later people need to realize our prison system is not a rehabilitation system, and certainly isn't any place an addict in need of treatment should be.

Sad story, but if the judge tells you don't come back, you might want to listen.

Who knows what he has going on, he played high level football and was in a serious car accident.

I'm just about positive programs have been offered.

I'm positive we have no idea what programs have or have not been offered. I'm also positive that he didn't intentionally ignore the judge and just decide to get arrested just so he could see what the judge would do.

 

[noeynox]

Nope.

www.nij.gov/topics/corrections/recidivism/Pages/welcome.aspx

"Within three years of release, about two-thirds (67.8 percent) of released prisoners were rearrested. Within five years of release, about three-quarters (76.6 percent) of released prisoners were rearrested. Of those prisoners who were rearrested, more than half (56.7 percent) were arrested by the end of the first year."

Sooner or later people need to realize our prison system is not a rehabilitation system, and certainly isn't any place an addict in need of treatment should be.



I'm positive we have no idea what programs have or have not been offered. I'm also positive that he didn't intentionally ignore the judge and just decide to get arrested just so he could see what the judge would do.

Well unless laws change, you can't be ordered into treatment or medicated assisted programs. There is help out there.

I feel terrible for the young man, but I've literally seen hundreds and hundreds of case like this. By the time you go to jail for something like this you've been afforded every avenue out there. Trust me on this, judges today aren't sending people to prison where it costs 36k, a year to house an inmate to prove a point.

I hope to God, he comes to the point where he could turn it around. Allowing him to continue to sabotage himself isn't doing him any favors.

 

[BlueMAB]

Well unless laws change, you can't be ordered into treatment or medicated assisted programs. There is help out there.

I feel terrible for the young man, but I've literally seen hundreds and hundreds of case like this. By the time you go to jail for something like this you've been afforded every avenue out there. Trust me on this, judges today aren't sending people to prison where it costs 36k, a year to house an inmate to prove a point.

I hope to God, he comes to the point where he could turn it around. Allowing him to continue to sabotage himself isn't doing him any favors.

I don't know about Ohio specifically, but many states have alternative options for judges under certain criteria.

Court Ordered Rehab: Get Clean or Serve Time

If you feel bad for him now, wait until he gets out in two years, is still an addict, and will struggle to find a job, increasing the likelihood that he ends up back in jail. Because that outcome is significantly more likely than him getting clean and "learning his lesson" (not your words, I know).

 

[noeynox]

I don't know about Ohio specifically, but many states have alternative options for judges under certain criteria.

Court Ordered Rehab: Get Clean or Serve Time

If you feel bad for him now, wait until he gets out in two years, is still an addict, and will struggle to find a job, increasing the likelihood that he ends up back in jail. Because that outcome is significantly more likely than him getting clean and "learning his lesson" (not your words, I know).

Well we have a system where a person decides how many chances is enough. Judges aren't perfect but that's who gets to make the call.

Until he gets his life in order, future jobs and things of that nature mean nothing. Sometimes prison serves as an awakening for some who can't get right out in the world. I'm sure he will do nowhere close to full sentence, and will be offered services again upon reentry.

 

[noeynox]

I don't know about Ohio specifically, but many states have alternative options for judges under certain criteria.

Court Ordered Rehab: Get Clean or Serve Time

If you feel bad for him now, wait until he gets out in two years, is still an addict, and will struggle to find a job, increasing the likelihood that he ends up back in jail. Because that outcome is significantly more likely than him getting clean and "learning his lesson" (not your words, I know).

Last thing, Ohio was THE model with their drug courts and alternatives to incarceration. Don't know where they are today.

 

[BlueMAB]

Well unless laws change, you can't be ordered into treatment or medicated assisted programs.

Last thing, Ohio was THE model with their drug courts and alternatives to incarceration. Don't know where they are today.

Did you forget the laws changed?

Part of getting your life together is being employed. Greater than 75% chance he ends up back in jail within 5 years. Greater than 50% chance he ends up back within 12 months.

I don't blame the judges, they are but one part of an entire system that needs to be fixed.

 

[huskymedic]

I don't know about Ohio specifically, but many states have alternative options for judges under certain criteria.

Court Ordered Rehab: Get Clean or Serve Time

If you feel bad for him now, wait until he gets out in two years, is still an addict, and will struggle to find a job, increasing the likelihood that he ends up back in jail. Because that outcome is significantly more likely than him getting clean and "learning his lesson" (not your words, I know).

Last thing, Ohio was THE model with their drug courts and alternatives to incarceration. Don't know where they are today.

Mike is in state prison in PA... PA does have a pretty aggressive MAT program but like most things - there has to be a desire.

 

[Jax Husky]

Did you forget the laws changed?

Part of getting your life together is being employed. Greater than 75% chance he ends up back in jail within 5 years. Greater than 50% chance he ends up back within 12 months.

I don't blame the judges, they are but one part of an entire system that needs to be fixed.

Our for profit prison systems LOVE recidivism, so there is no real call for them to actually rehabilitate. You can go from state to state finding prisons that have cut all of their programs that would help prepare people for the outside.

Prisons should NOT ever be privatized and for-profit.