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Message: [QUOTE="Hans Sprungfeld, post: 3365576, member: 181"] Thank you for fleshing out your point of view. It has elevated the subsequent discussion. "None of this is hard to figure out," however, isn't helpful...whether to a message board audience you'd like to educate, or a coach you'd like to persuade toward your way of seeing things. And what of those who regard "punishment" as counterproductive, or lesser in value than learning from mistakes and preparing with new awarenesses? I still see 2019 as getting things ready for 2020. If I'm wrong in being hopeful for the new calendar year, then I'll own it, but also not imagine that it's because Hurley didn't listen to the wide variety of suggestions here. Somebody's take is going to align with what happens, but I don't think it will be regarded as prescient genius. [/QUOTE]