Rothstein on 5th year transfers

[tcf15]

He either really loves something, or really hates something. In this case, he hates 5th year transfers:

5. Fifth-year transfers need to remember their place in the landscape of things: April and May in college basketball have become the sport's free-agency period. If you can play immediately for a team next season without sitting out as a transfer, you're the equivalent of gold. But with all those things said, it would be nice if these kids understood that the reason they're available is because things didn't work out for them in one or in some cases, two places. You know what that means? Don't act you're LeBron James. Don't act like the recruiting process you're going through is just as glamorous as the one that Ray Allen went through when he played Jesus Shuttlesworth in He Got Game. Instead of these kids and their advisers/handlers acting like they're a commodity, it would be nice if they acted like they were appreciative of the fact that someone else was giving them another opportunity. Again, these kids aren't LeBron James. And they shouldn't act like they are either.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...-look-for-kadeem-allen-to-blossom-for-arizona

 

[Brochacho]

Our boy Jon calls them gold at the beginning. Says they aren't a commodity by the end. What? And no, they aren't available because they didn't work out at multiple schools, but rather because they got their degrees. You know, the point in going to college. "Don't act you're LeBron James." Nice proofreading. If they were LeBron James, they wouldn't be a fifth year transfer to begin with. That excerpt strikes me as some self-righteous clown on a crusade against transfers.

Shame on these kids going through the process to make sure they get it right for their final season.

 

[8893]

it would be nice if these kids understood that the reason they're available is because things didn't work out for them in one or in some cases, two places. You know what that means?

I think that means that he doesn't understand that that's not true for Ivy Leaguers like Miller.

 

[TRest]

The whole thing reads like a shot at the PC kid.

 

[pnow15]

Hey, who is he kidding. If had had the opportunity to play for a good team and work toward a masters degree for free, he would have been the first guy in line.

 

[CallMeBruce]

The whole thing reads like a shot at the PC kid.

Bingo.

 

[HuskyBballFan]

Rothstein is well-sourced and is worth a follow purely for whatever news he breaks. But just about 100% of his opinions are beyond obnoxious.

 

[Jay-Bone]

How is this any worse than one-and-dones? At least the majority of these kids have an objective other than an obstacle to the NBA.

 

[RayIsTheGOAT]

Or maybe a lot of them were injured and had to sit out for a year, or can't play due to cockamamie Ivy rules. Exactly which 5th year transfers think they are Lebron James? Most of them want one year to show what they have at a good school, and bring leadership/win a championship. The majority of them realize they don't have a future in professional basketball and have a backup plan (hence a postgrad year).

 

[SubbaBub]

They are good for a team that needs depth or a particular skill set, like rebounding. None of these guys are stars or should expect to start or play huge minutes for a top level team. If they want to be the man at a lower level and get a Siena to the NCAAs, go for it. Teams like UConn are not looking for guys like that. Kromah is about a good an example as you can cite. 6th/7th man, could defend, play 10-15 minutes at the point without turning the ball over, score a few points and hit his free throws.

If you need a guy like that then a 5th year is a good place to look. That is what the article is saying.

 

[aceboon]

They are good for a team that needs depth or a particular skill set, like rebounding. None of these guys are stars or should expect to start or play huge minutes for a top level team. If they want to be the man at a lower level and get a Siena to the NCAAs, go for it. Teams like UConn are not looking for guys like that. Kromah is about a good an example as you can cite. 6th/7th man, could defend, play 10-15 minutes at the point without turning the ball over, score a few points and hit his free throws.

If you need a guy like that then a 5th year is a good place to look. That is what the article is saying.

Nah that's not what he's saying at all. If you follow Rothstein on Twitter or read his articles like these, its obvious he's very anti transfer, he feels like it's hurting college ball and he also never liked the waiver process. He's taking aim at the guys who are basically using this as the high school recruiting process all over again, Trey Lewis just held a press conference to announce he was transferring to Louisville as a 5th year guy.

Also, not all of these guys are role players or bench players, you can find legit stars, guys like DeAndre Kane and Mike Moser come to mind.

 

[4in16]

He sure seems to love Iowa State and all there transfers over the past few seasons.

 

[aceboon]

The tweet below was in response to the NCAA eliminating waivers

 

[Rocktheworld]

Death. Taxes. Rothstein being dumb.

 

[Stainmaster]

Death. Taxes. Rothstein being dumb.

Your analysis is OFF THE CHARTS.

 

[uconnfan68]

Nah that's not what he's saying at all. If you follow Rothstein on Twitter or read his articles like these, its obvious he's very anti transfer, he feels like it's hurting college ball and he also never liked the waiver process. He's taking aim at the guys who are basically using this as the high school recruiting process all over again, Trey Lewis just held a press conference to announce he was transferring to Louisville as a 5th year guy.

Also, not all of these guys are role players or bench players, you can find legit stars, guys like DeAndre Kane and Mike Moser come to mind.

He's trying to carry Coach K's water on this subject. Both are wrong. This is the best thing the NCAA could have ever done for "student" athletes.

 

[CallMeBruce]

They are good for a team that needs depth or a particular skill set, like rebounding. None of these guys are stars or should expect to start or play huge minutes for a top level team. If they want to be the man at a lower level and get a Siena to the NCAAs, go for it. Teams like UConn are not looking for guys like that. Kromah is about a good an example as you can cite. 6th/7th man, could defend, play 10-15 minutes at the point without turning the ball over, score a few points and hit his free throws.

If you need a guy like that then a 5th year is a good place to look. That is what the article is saying.

Miller is likely to start and play huge minutes for what I hope is a top-level team. There are several fifth-year guys who looks to be key guys for major programs next year. I suspect that Trey Lewis starts for Louisville next year, and Damion Lee looks sure to be an impact starter wherever he lands. Adam Smith played 30mpg last year in the ACC and put up big numbers. Why would he not be playing huge minutes?

 

[Gurleyman]

The idea that anyone would be against fifth year transfers is crazy to me. They've graduated. They should have a right to attend grad school where they wish and not be forced to choose graduate programs at the same school they got their bachelors. How does that make sense?

And yes, they could go to a different school without playing sports, but they would lose a scholarship and a year of eligibility. So why be punished for graduating?

 

[JSB60]

This is one of the few things the NCAA actually gets right. The kids have an incentive to graduate. Miller isn't relevant to Rothstein's discussion, anyway. He worked out perfectly at Cornell, he and the school would both loved for him to return, but the Ivy League has particularly ridiculous regulations.