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Message: [QUOTE="upstater, post: 4359256, member: 153"] Who proceeded to choose one bad coal mine after another when he left. Look, not a single person saying Ollie had a big part in the NC is defending Ollie for what came afterward. If someone wants to step up here and tell me Glen Miller developed Giffey, Napier, Boatright and Daniels, that's perfectly fine. All we're saying is that the coaches of that '14 team did a helluva job, especially since those players became the greats they became post-Calhoun. I accept what Purvis is saying at face value. That's a very different thing than Vance Jackson who hasn't managed to improve under several other coaches elsewhere. It's night and day. Are we acting like Vance is the first disgruntled player to leave and fizzle out? I mean, we've even had disgruntled people like Oriakhi leave here, or one of the best examples is Gavin Edwards. A guy who was disgruntled and yet developed into a solid player here, after not having ANYONE else knock on his door coming out of high school. I just think you take it with a grain of salt from some kids, while other kids--like Purvis--have more credibility. [/QUOTE]