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Message: [QUOTE="Conndog, post: 3962874, member: 5939"] Not sure how to achieve it, but our area is about 100 feet wide by 80 feet long, and it gets full sun. I'd like it to have mix of plants, some flattish rocks here & there with phlox hanging off it, maybe a small pond at bottom. I'll let the landscaper take out the grass whether with mini-excavator or something else. To mow it now, I'll have to use our 21" self-propelled unless I can convince wife there is a safe way to mow slopes with zero-turn; I have a Ferris ISX800 52". [/QUOTE]