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Message: [QUOTE="BRS24, post: 4582224, member: 197"] Counterpoint - at the end of Geno's post game presser yesterday, he said that even if Vermont (25-7/14-2) went undefeated in conference play, and lost in the conf tourney, they wouldn't get a bid, so it's not an option for them not to win the tourney to get into the NCAAT. That's their ceiling. I would love to see what a 68 team field looks like with both the regular and conf champs getting bids, and then what else shakes out. For instance, Columbia was tied with Princeton in regular season, but got knocked out of tourney in semis by Harvard. Would I like to see them in the NCAAT rather than a lower ranked team in the conferences that are always awarded multiple seeds? Yep. And yes, the counter to my counter is that this conference is stronger, etc, etc, Miami - 20-12/11-7 NCSU - 20-12/9-9 Purdue - 19-11/9-8 Alabama - 20-11/9-7 Miss St - 22-10/9-7 (jury still out on this team clearly on a roll right now) [/QUOTE]