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Message: [QUOTE="azfan, post: 4582200, member: 7748"] Not clear on your claim or analysis. Is it your view that participation in conference tournaments were responsible for the early exits by the Cougars and Cyclones? Interesting excuse as both of your examples would have played lower ranked teams in the big dance whom they should have been expected to beat.. I'm certain the Cyclone and Cougar fans and players were delighted to have the opportunity to excel in the conference tournament. I know winning the initial Pac-12 conference tournament championship back in 2001 was huge for the ASU Sun Devils program, players, fans, and I think for the entire conference. I know it meant a great deal to me and was a top 10 women's basketball event in my life. Also I'm sure Tara was definitely impacted by the failure of her team to win the first conference tournament. Anyway an interesting claim. [/QUOTE]