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Message: [QUOTE="ivrytontusker, post: 2070309, member: 6648"] The NCAA recently made Notre Dame football vacate all wins from the 2012 and 2013 seasons because a player's girlfriend helped several players cheat in classes (making those players ineligible). ND self-reported and decided to play nice with the NCAA during the investigation, and hand over all sorts of material, etc., (which they probably regret doing now). The beans were only spilled on the UNC scandal because NC State message boards called attention to it and a former employee talked to a reporter about it. Since the investigation was opened UNC has basically stonewalled and will probably be rewarded for it. Does anybody seriously think that they would make UNC vacate their 2005 title (even though a bunch of players on the 2005 team were in the fake classes)? Does anybody think they will make UNC basketball and football vacate wins going back to 1993? In some ways the severity of the offense helps UNC because they know they won't get absolutely murdered no matter what happens. [/QUOTE]