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Message: [QUOTE="Fishy, post: 4334245, member: 38"] You are. They’re crap. Hotpoints and Tappans were the miracles of the real estate rental world. Tappans were ovens that had kind of a broiler thing up top - you could offer an elderly woman a new range and she would turn it down because none of them ever wanted to part with the Tappand. Hard to describe the set up. As for Hotpoints, you could keep them going forever. They never broke,. Samsungs were/are a scourge. LGs are better, but their repair network for warranty stuff is so bad that they sometimes have to resort to just shipping new ones to you. [/QUOTE]