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Message: [QUOTE="dennismenace, post: 4332878, member: 6158"] The problem pretty much is and has been Chinese electronics. I think they called it "planned obsolescence" in Marketing class in college. Same goes with smaller appliances. My wife goes to yard sales and she routinely finds Farberware coffee percolators that will last for more than 10 years (used!) while the new ones seem to last about two. The only iron she has bouight new that has lasted are the Rowena ones. I remember when major manufacturers (GE, Black and Decker) started importing these back in the 70's-80's. They never lasted more than three months and I was back in the exchange line at Caldors or wherever. Never was the expression "they don't make them like they used to" more appropriate than today. [/QUOTE]