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Message: [QUOTE="superjohn, post: 5278710, member: 1522"] "One plot point" "The movie and the novel on which it was based take great pains to be accurate in showing the traditions" The entire movie hinges on "Cardinal" Benitez and his character makes a mockery of the papal conclave and the religion. Even if you throw out the socio-political ridiculous plot contrivance of him having a uterus he never would've gotten a single vote because he never would've been allowed there, you keep ignoring that for some reason. This plot point and other portrayals of the cardinals are distasteful and offensive to many Catholics, bishops, and other clergy. It's not distasteful and offensive to you so you don't care. I wasn't at all surprised by it, it's Hollywood being Hollywood. If my spoiler keeps any posters from watching it, I saved them two hours. [/QUOTE]