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Message: [QUOTE="nwhoopfan, post: 5267493, member: 7894"] Tried "Havoc," brand new on Netflix. Couldn't do it. How can you screw something up w/ Tom Hardy, Timothy Olyphant, Forest Whitaker and Luis Guzman? Somehow they did. It's from the writer of The Raid: Redemption, he also directed the sequel to that. But the action/fight scenes don't feel nearly as dynamic or kinetic in this. Odd choice visually to make it super gritty and grimy, it just looks awful. Cruddy CGI where there doesn't need to be any. Same tired stuff. Dirty cops, crooked politician, gang war, etc. etc. I watched more than half, wasn't going anywhere. Hardy was going thru the motions and the other stars were given almost nothing to work with, what a waste of talent. Also includes Jessie Mei Li who was the star of the Netflix series Shadow and Bone, she also was given almost nothing to do in this. [/QUOTE]