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Message: [QUOTE="nelsonmuntz, post: 4407751, member: 833"] [B]Jobs (2013) - Netflix [/B]- This movie is pretty bad, in addition to being wildly historically inaccurate. Aaron Sorkin's Steve Jobs (2015) movie, which is structured more like a play, is much more accurate in terms of representing the respective people, in addition to being more interesting and just a better movie. Going down the list of problems with Jobs (2013): The directing is just terrible. It comes off like a docudrama with the shaky camera and stilted dialogue. The high number of reaction shots gets distracting pretty quickly. It is just a mess. Ashton Kutcher is an OK TV comedy actor. He can't pull off being the leading man in a biopic about one of the more complicated and influential Americans of the last 25 years of the 20th century. The character was flat, boring, and not credible as a visionary. Fassbender absolutely owned the part in the Sorkin version. Josh Gad is OK, but also not credible as a genius that is one of the most important inventors of the digital age. Wozniak seems like a bystander and cheerleader rather than a driver. The movie leaves out Xerox PARC completely. Jobs and Wozniak's (I think Wozniak was there) visited Xerox PARC in 1979 and walked out with the future of computing. Jobs and Wozniak get a lot of credit for stuff they didn't actually invent. The movie characterization of Mike Markkula is simply ridiculous. He is one of the most successful tech executives and investors in history, (Wozniak credit Markkula for much of Apple's initial success) but he comes off in this movie as a spineless, backstabbing doofus. Matthew Modine is wasted in some silly caricature of John Sculley. I have no idea why JK Simmons got involved in that ridiculous misrepresentation of Arther Rock. My biggest issue with the movie is that it makes Jobs into something he isn't. He was definitely a visionary, but he was a terrible manager until late in his career, having failed at Apple, and then again at NEXT. He deserved to be fired from Apple in 1985. He became very wealthy from his investment in Pixar, but he had almost no operating role in that company. Before he came back to Apple, he had never been successful as a business manager. His primary skill was in his ability to operationalize his vision, and more importantly, in recognizing genius, both in Wozniak and Markkula, and later with Avie Tevanian (who isn't in the movie), among others, when he came back to Apple in the late 90's. Both movies are on Netlix. I recommend Steve Jobs (2015), but there is no reason to watch the Jobs (2013) mess. [/QUOTE]

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