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Message: [QUOTE="Dogdeacon, post: 2896250, member: 1026"] Wow I thought it was farcical crap. I liked the opening where they lived in the woods, totally unrealistic & fantastical imagining that you if you just go into the woods you can live & raise children self-sustaining off the grid, but at least fun entertainment in the ridiculousness of it. But once they try to cross into the real world yet still persist in their obsessive anarchy it becomes malecowcrap. The kids supposedly question society, authority, all structure and are free thinkers yet at same time their father's ways are not to be questioned. No disconnect there at all. I wanted to enjoy the atypical family & see the benefits of an alternative way, but they presented it with no introspection. This rendered it into a fairy tale as full of hypocrisy as the world they supposedly rebel against. The Post - Great, a little too much about the individual (Streep) than the overall theme but nonetheless excellent Tag - unbelievably horrible, Ed Helms doesn't belong in movies (loved him in the Office) and Renner is just a dick Phantom Thread - really indulgent, what it lacks in entertainment value is offset by the analogy of an artists inner life, pretty insightful & thought provoking [/QUOTE]