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Message: [QUOTE="msf22b, post: 2414884, member: 656"] I didn't think Geno's remarks were necessarily condescending rather his incredulity at the different strains of America, much of which most of us are at least partially unaware. Driving to Ohio for research last year, I made a point to detour through West Virginia, a place I'd never been to and spent a day driving through small towns, closed mines, speaking to a great many folks, whose life has been uprooted by globalism and the the march to renewables and cleaner fuels. The Western side of the Appalachians is a virtual separate country, not to be underestimated or forgotten. [/QUOTE]