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After Ray saved LeBron from getting shredded by the media with that dagger 3, I guess that would lead them two to become close...haha
 
If that's the case its brilliant. Ray realized two years ago he needed a situation where getting open wasn't solely his responsibility = needs to surround himself with threats and picking the biggest threat in NBA that also happens to be a great passer is a wise choice.
 
Don't think Ray can play on a championship level any longer.
 
The Heat extended Ray, Wade and Bird Man way beyond there usefulness . That team needs a infusion of younger knee caps and a useful big man. Ray , Wade and Bird Man as a bench is far better.
 
pnete said:
Don't think Ray can play on a championship level any longer.
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He can't consistently but he can in spots here and there. He was largely a non factor in the playoffs this year, but he did end the Nets series in 5 and he did have a big fourth quarter to swing the Pacers series back their way. That's all you want from a 40 year old. When you put him in the stating lineup in an elimination game as a desperation move, you probably won't get results.
 
Ray Allen regulars the la fitness right off the Berlin turnpike during the offseason. when I was a member I used to stretch right next to him
 
Sprague03 said:
Ray Allen regulars the la fitness right off the Berlin turnpike during the offseason. when I was a member I used to stretch right next to him
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are you a female?
 
pnete said:
Don't think Ray can play on a championship level any longer.
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At his age, He (still) Got Game!

Seriously, that game in the Finals, where he had back to back layups, and the dunk, he looked very good for a 6'5" shooting guard closing in on 40. He takes outstanding care of himself.
 
People throw around the idea that certain players are "done" when they decline. HOF type players are still in the top half or even top 25% of the league in talent and skill in their late 30's. That's why Jordan could still go for 50 points at age 41. Ray isn't what he once was, but he hasn't been that guy for 8 or 9 years. People called him done at age 30 due to all kinds of leg problems, loss of speed and hops etc., but he still found ways to be incredibly valuable as a shooter. He occasionally had enough juice to make a big play going to the rim. He played a lot of valuable minutes and scored a lot of points while "done". Now people are saying Wade is finished. Once again, Wade may not be his old self, but if he can play 28-30 minutes/night, he's still better than 80-90% of all NBA players.

Ray should play as long as he can contribute and enjoys it. Even at 40 Ray will be worth having on your roster. Keep in mind, he's playing for peanuts. If he wants to be a role player, then that's his choice.
 
Hoophound said:
People throw around the idea that certain players are "done" when they decline. HOF type players are still in the top half or even top 25% of the league in talent and skill in their late 30's. That's why Jordan could still go for 50 points at age 41. Ray isn't what he once was, but he hasn't been that guy for 8 or 9 years. People called him done at age 30 due to all kinds of leg problems, loss of speed and hops etc., but he still found ways to be incredibly valuable as a shooter. He occasionally had enough juice to make a big play going to the rim. He played a lot of valuable minutes and scored a lot of points while "done". Now people are saying Wade is finished. Once again, Wade may not be his old self, but if he can play 28-30 minutes/night, he's still better than 80-90% of all NBA players.

Ray should play as long as he can contribute and enjoys it. Even at 40 Ray will be worth having on your roster. Keep in mind, he's playing for peanuts. If he wants to be a role player, then that's his choice.
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That's the biggest problem with stars playing into their late 30s. Their refusal to change their game and adjust to their roles. It's hard for a star to accept less minutes, failing athleticism and overall skillset. Stars usually have one or two truly elite skills that they can utilize to the end. They also have the smarts/experience to beat lesser players with their mind, rather than athleticism.

Ray's elite skill is 3pt shooting and spacing the floor. He can still do this to as effective a degree as most anyone in the league.
 
intlzncster said:
That's the biggest problem with stars playing into their late 30s. Their refusal to change their game and adjust to their roles. It's hard for a star to accept less minutes, failing athleticism and overall skillset. Stars usually have one or two truly elite skills that they can utilize to the end. They also have the smarts/experience to beat lesser players with their mind, rather than athleticism.

Ray's elite skill is 3pt shooting and spacing the floor. He can still do this to as effective a degree as most anyone in the league.
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Yep, if you watched the finals the Spurs NEVER left Ray. Guys defending him worked very hard and this helped space the floor for Miami. Ray's role and minutes will likely continue to decline, but as a spot up shooter he's still among the best in the business. 1 more year I think.
 
Dogdeacon said:
Yep, if you watched the finals the Spurs NEVER left Ray. Guys defending him worked very hard and this helped space the floor for Miami. Ray's role and minutes will likely continue to decline, but as a spot up shooter he's still among the best in the business. 1 more year I think.
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I'm betting on two more. Ray's obsessive OCD qualities have to be thinking a nice even 20 year career. As someone with OCD, I'd be shooting for the same thing.

Plus, I think he's really enjoying having the strong chance for a championship year in year out, especially after being stuck on mediocre teams most of his career. Probably why he's attaching himself to LeBron's coattails. No shame in that.
 
intlzncster said:
That's the biggest problem with stars playing into their late 30s. Their refusal to change their game and adjust to their roles. It's hard for a star to accept less minutes, failing athleticism and overall skillset. Stars usually have one or two truly elite skills that they can utilize to the end. They also have the smarts/experience to beat lesser players with their mind, rather than athleticism. Ray's elite skill is 3pt shooting and spacing the floor. He can still do this to as effective a degree as most anyone in the league.
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I thought you going to disagree with me, then you didn't. Anyway, you are right that these guys need to accept their new role. It's a shame some can't. I'd rather have a guy like DWade as my 6th man than any other 6th man in the league. Just not sure how he'd handle it yet.

As far as Ray goes, you nailed it. People say he can't get open etc., but the value of Ray is that you can't double team Lebron, Kobe, Melo, Dirk etc. when he is out there. You have to guard him and that is truly valuable. It isn't exciting to the average observer, but very effective. He'll find a job and he'll average 20+ minutes.
 
I thought Ray was awful in the finals, sans a few minutes here and there. If someone wants to spend $5m on him good luck.
 
husky91 said:
I thought Ray was awful in the finals, sans a few minutes here and there. If someone wants to spend $5m on him good luck.
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Awful is absurd unless you are comparing him to 2007 Ray Allen.

Ray averaged 10pts, just under 2 boards, 1.6 steals and TOs in about 31 MPG all on par with his season averages excepting more minutes. Remember this was against the best team in the NBA.
Game wise he shot 6/12 in game 1, then 4/7, 3/8, 3/6 and 1/8. I didn't watch the last game and I heard he had some bad turnovers and looked old, but that was part of why the Heat lost. Chalmers was far worse at $4M per and 10+ years younger and Dwyane Wade's last two games were brutal, should everyone retire that didn't win the championship?
 
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