Rate that coach (no hurley)

[Jaydumo20]

Assign these coaches a grade.

1-100. Holistic, not just this year. 1 being non-existently awful, 100 being legendary and near impossible to reach.

Example: A coach with a lot of wins but no rings may not make the 90s.



Mark Few
Coach Cal
Greg McD
Scheyer
Pitino
Penny Hardaway
Scott Drew

And for fun: Jimmy B!

This list is arbitrary. I'm not looking for any particular assessment.

Try to give some reason for your analysis.

 

[RuffRuff]

1) Pitino - gets the most out of his players, master motivator, proven to be able to win in multiple programs

Murky from here. I might actually go with Few next, as a guy who has consistently won for so many years without a ton of NBA talent, at a small mid major school in the middle of no where.

As a coach, Cal is at the bottom, he's almost exclusively a great recruiter. I'd say Scheyer falls into that bucket and just below Cal since he's only been doing it for 3 years. I do recognize that recruiting is a very important part of coaching.

Penny has been a mess for the most part, I'd put him a the bottom. McDermott is a great coach and has done more with less. Drew has the NC but generally speaking doesn't maximize his talent. I'd look at this more in tiers:

Pitino

Great coaches
Few
McDermott

Great recruiters
Cal
Scheyer
Drew

Then Penny

 

[Huskyforlife]

If 10 is Hall of Fame, Pitino/Drew/Few/Cal/JimB would be 10s.

if 8 is "Hall of very good" give me McDermott.

Penny is probably just above average, so 6.

Scheyer is too early to rank, but he's off to a blistering pace, and he's incredibly young.

 

[Jaydumo20]

If 10 is Hall of Fame, Pitino/Drew/Few/Cal/JimB would be 10s.

if 8 is "Hall of very good" give me McDermott.

Penny is probably just above average, so 6.

Scheyer is too early to rank, but he's off to a blistering pace, and he's incredibly young.

Good list.
I should probably change the grading from 1-100 to account for differences between, let's say, Few-Drew-Pitino. It's hard for me to call them all 10s

 

[pj]

If you take out recruiting McDermott belongs with the greats. If you include recruiting that helps Penny, Cal, and Scheyer.

It's really two different skill sets. If Scheyer and McDermott swapped players it would be no contest.

 

[Scottzer]

Few, pitino, Calhoun are all A’s. Calhoun and Few took programs from obscurity to FF’s or better. Few has been ridiculously consistent, somehow creating almost championship teams from a mediocre conference. Calhoun would have backsliding seasons, but he built the program from whole cloth. Pitino helped Providence get to a FF. Sure he has titles that stick or don’t, but a helluva coach.

Kelvin Sampson - A or A-. Year in, year out, Houston is never a team you want to face.

McDermott - I think l, could be a title coach at UConn. I don’t think he’s going anywhere, ever, but it’s hard to go below an A-

Cal, Scott Drew - B. I love Drew’s personality, but I’m not sure how good a coach he is. Cal, at least at one time, could coach.

Scheyer, Penny - Incomplete. I get that Scheyer has tons of take talent, but, still it’s not that easy to win with so many freshmen. Penny has learned from his earlier mistakes, and this season will help us see what he has learned. For him to fire his staff over the summer, and not have it result in chaos means he’s figured out something in the leadership dept.

 

[gtcam]

K Sampson - hands down

 

[UCFan1513]

Rating just driving ability…
Boeheim and Few: 1
Everyone else: 100

 

[Mr. French]

OP: do this ranking 1-100

BY: got it. Understood.

First 5 posts here’s a grading system with no numbers. Here’s a ranking with A-F. Here’s another where I rank 1-10.

 

[Get a Job]

OP: do this ranking 1-100

BY: got it. Understood.

First 5 posts here’s a grading system with no numbers. Here’s a ranking with A-F. Here’s another where I rank 1-10.

Seriously! The only one following directions was @UCFan1513 making a tasteless joke! (I love tasteless jokes.)

To be fair, I think the OP first solicited ratings on a 1-10 scale, and edited the prompt later to call for a 0-100 scale. Still, no one correctly followed the original directions either.

 

[Scottzer]

OP: do this ranking 1-100

BY: got it. Understood.

First 5 posts here’s a grading system with no numbers. Here’s a ranking with A-F. Here’s another where I rank 1-10.

Eh, I don’t think I’m qualified to differentiate coaches down to a single point. I also think that a lot of these coaches are not as far apart as we think - some coaches elevate a program to new heights, and other coaches are elevated by a program’s history and continued support.

 

[JonnyRI]

JB
Squid
Few
McDermott ‍

 

[JonnyRI]

Mark Few 94
Coach Cal 86
Greg McD 91
Scheyer 84
Pitino 98
Penny Hardaway 73
Scott Drew 88

 

[Jaydumo20]

Seriously! The only one following directions was @UCFan1513 making a tasteless joke! (I love tasteless jokes.)

To be fair, I think the OP first solicited ratings on a 1-10 scale, and edited the prompt later to call for a 0-100 scale. Still, no one correctly followed the original directions either.

You're 10....I mean 100% correct. @Mr. French I knew that would happen.
Look @JonnyRI answer
When you're forced to assign a grade out of that large a number it matters.
Of course most of these guys are great coaches but you have to put your money where your mouth is when you have decide a number grade for guys like penny and Drew

 

[Jaydumo20]

Mark Few 94
Coach Cal 86
Greg McD 91
Scheyer 84
Pitino 98
Penny Hardaway 73
Scott Drew 88

Mark Few - 92
Cal-90 (he was supplying the NBA with dudes for years and even though he has taken a step back, he's a legend)
Greg McD- 88
Scheyer- 80
Pitino- 96
Penny- 75
Scott Drew- 88 is the perfect number for him. If he didn't win the Natty maybe he drops to low 80s

 

[JonnyRI]

Mark Few - 92
Cal-90 (he was supplying the NBA with dudes for years and even though he has taken a step back, he's a legend)
Greg McD- 88
Scheyer- 80
Pitino- 96
Penny- 75
Scott Drew- 88 is the perfect number for him. If he didn't win the Natty maybe he drops to low 80s

You asked about JB. I’d go with 95. Hard to penalize much for the last few years. I get the hard to let go thing.

In my head though the gap from 95 to 98 is real fricking big though. Like 2 more natty type gap.

 

[Kolumbo]

Why this arbitrary short list? Throw in guys like Shaka Smart Sean Miller and screw Scheyer. That said

92.06 Smart
92.05 Miller
88.67 Drew
88.34 Few
76.83 McD
66.76 Pitino
54.98 Cal
34.33 Hardaway
00.37 Boehiem

 

[JonnyRI]

Why this arbitrary short list? Throw in guys like Shaka Smart Sean Miller and screw Scheyer. That said

92.06 Smart
92.05 Miller
88.67 Drew
88.34 Few
76.83 McD
66.76 Pitino
54.98 Cal
34.33 Hardaway
00.37 Boehiem

Wow. Did Slick Rick do something to you personally?

 

[Excalibur]

Assign these coaches a grade.

1-100. Holistic, not just this year. 1 being non-existently awful, 100 being legendary and near impossible to reach.

Example: A coach with a lot of wins but no rings may not make the 90s.



Mark Few
Coach Cal
Greg McD
Scheyer
Pitino
Penny Hardaway
Scott Drew

And for fun: Jimmy B!

This list is arbitrary. I'm not looking for any particular assessment.

Try to give some reason for your analysis.

Pitino is as close to 100 as it gets.

Younger Cal was probably an 80-90. What he managed to do at UMass with one superstar and a bunch of ok players was very impressive. He had better talent at Memphis but not like he did at KY and was very successful. Once he got to Lexington he just had the best players and rolled the ball out.

McDermott is also in that 80-90 range. Always seems to have his teams playing at the top of their ability.

Penny in the 70 range or so. Good coach, gets players with the enormous resources that Memphis gets from wealthy donors. Nothing special.

Scheyer was unimpressive until this year, when he has maybe the best player in college hoops in the past 5 years. I'd put him in that 70-80 range for now but jury is still out.

Drew was on a Jim Calhoun-like track but hasn't been able to sustain after getting to the top. I'd say he's around an 80 on your scale.

 

[Kolumbo]

Wow. Did Slick Rick do something to you personally?

Slick knows basketball no question. Being a great coach entails much more than teaching basketball though and he comes up a little short in many categories, such as being ethical, abiding by rules, abstaining from criminal activity. One does not get fired and have games vacated for no reason. So as a Coach, I think I ranked him too high.

 

[Travelman6]

Rick is a great coach and will be good for the BE as long as he's there. But he's not a good person but it will create compelling rivalries which the BE needs. It's possible to believe in all of those things at the same time.

 

[superjohn]

Norman Dale 100-100

 

[Scottzer]

I’m curious how you guys would rate Pat Kelsey. I was happy for Louisville when they hired him, and he’d done a heck of a job at Charleston. He’s getting maximum effort out of those kids and I they’ve had to deal with injuries without taking a step backward.

For me - now - incomplete. Guess - he’s around a 92 within two years.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Once Texas fires Gus Fring, they should take a long look at Penny. I think he would be really successful at a major conference program.