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Message: [QUOTE="champs99and04, post: 2399652, member: 488"] I don't think anybody has ever looked at a list like that and been happy with everything. There have been worse than this one. Among returning players, I think they got it right with Bridges, Colson, and Brunson leading the pack in some order. Total studs, can't be disputed. Allen and Trier in the top ten are fine. Angel Delgado at #11 strikes me as ambitious. Generally speaking, I think guys who pile up gaudy assist and rebound numbers tend to be overrated on lists like this (Kyron Cartwright is another example of this). Beyond that, the best teams seem over-represented. Theo Pinson is an example of somebody nobody would even think about putting on a list like this if he didn't wear the UNC jersey. Averaged 6 ppg on 38% shooting last season in 23 mpg. Freshman in general are so hit and miss that it's tough to criticize their presence on these lists, but guys like Trae Young (#23 composite recruit 2017) and Shamorie Ponds (#46 2016) are emblematic of how out of proportion the valuation of freshman vs. sophomores is. Young is ranked 58th, Ponds 95th despite Ponds putting up over 17 PPG as a freshman for a St. Johns team that turned out better than expected. Players tend to make a big jump between freshman and sophomore year and then another one between sophomore and junior year. Unless a player is can't-miss, they're probably overrated as a freshman and underrated after that. People forget how hard college basketball is, which means the under-valued guys are usually the former top recruits who have had the shine taken off them (sometimes this isn't the case, see Rodney Purvis circa November 2016). Then there is the fallacy of listing players that play for K or Cal or Izzo simply because they play for K, Cal, or Izzo. Guys like Bagley or Bridges or even Diallo are ranked where they are independent of that. Other guys may not be. There is more incentive to find that blooming flower and give him every benefit of the doubt when they play for big time programs. On one hand, that's fair, on the other, it's not necessarily an accurate representation of the intrinsic value of these players. My hunch is that guys like Gilbert and Larrier (who I don't think should be on the list, FWIW) would have found their way on if they played for a member of the prestigious Champions Classic fraternity. [/QUOTE]

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