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Message: [QUOTE="freescooter, post: 3887257, member: 1023"] I agree with you on Providence and Seton Hall. I’d put St Johns in that group too. Their upsides are pretty limited. Villanova is a very different school from those three. They and Xavier have more upside and a stronger commitment. You can say what you want about DePaul but when a program has not been good for almost 20 years, you have to wonder...I put them in that group of older urban Catholic schools, really inner city schools that just aren’t that attractive any more. As I say, it isn’t 1965 any more. They don’t have a ton of money to invest in facilities and all the o5her stuff that goes with successful programs. Their goals for basketball are pretty low too. Make the tournament. Not go deep. Not win it. And it is largely a commuter school. Hard to make it that attractive honestly. [/QUOTE]