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Message: [QUOTE="billybud, post: 3911686, member: 3850"] What is the criteria for a "good coach" ? We define it by guys who win it all....Sometimes we blur good and great. The retired college baseball coach who won more games than anyone ever has, who went to 42 straight Regionals, made 17 CWS appearances...is most remembered for not winning a national championship. I think that Ham is a good basketball coach...but will never be considered a great coach because of the lack of ultimate success. Self is a good coach, IMHO. [/QUOTE]