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Message: [QUOTE="kcc1442, post: 3257046, member: 2577"] Don't get the critics at all. I'm not ready to anoint him in anyway mainly because it was Wagner but outside of one very bad read on the pick 6, he nearly played his hand perfectly. It was a combination of Guifre et al and the Wagner secondary playing 10 yards off the ball that stifled his numbers and dealt him a crap hand to begin with. But I don't get the people who are knocking his numbers. He should've had a td pass to Skanes (that ball has to be caught at this level) and then he would've been something like 15/21 180 1 td and 1 pick. That's over 71% passing and over 8.5 y/a. To me he got the ball out in time, he threw the ball strong and accurately on the short to intermediate routes (he does need to work on the long ball placement on the few chances he had he left it inside the field of play too much, needs to be on the sideline) but other than that how can people be so critical. He even runs a little better than I thought. [/QUOTE]