PT: Covid positivity rate drops below 5% nationally.

[MilliniumPrince]

Florida has been cooking the books for months.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Florida has been cooking the books for months.

So you believe CDC has been incompetent and local and national media have been asleep at the wheel??

You honestly believe bodies are piling up at morgues and no one noticed it?

 

[Chin Diesel]

The most interesting thing is Florida is in the middle of the pack (mid twenties of all states) for cases and deaths per million even though they have had very liberal policies on openings and crowd sizes.

Nothing amazing. It's a bit of sausage making and random distribution.

After a year everyone who understands science should realize Covid is spreading and being contained independent of state policy.

States have chosen drastically different vaccination priorities yet cases, hospitalizations, and deaths have gone down in all states.

 

[UCFBfan]

No matter anyone's views, even if they are the wrong views , we can all agree that numbers are going down and hopefully it continues that way. The bottom line with this thread is that we want to be able to have a season without interruption in both football and basketball. We want to be able to safely have fans in the stands in higher numbers than we had this past season.

Let's hope we can all see that happen come fall. The work must continue now and into the summer for that to remain the reality we see it being right now.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

Florida has been cooking the books for months.

I think you’re cooking with LSD.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

I think it's funny how people don't understand that herd immunity doesn't work by having one place or state reach a percentage vaccinated. Do you think that once Florida or Texas hit some number that no one will ever intermingle with others out of state? You only reach herd immunity when the whole reaches it. As it is, we as a country could reach it but it won't fully be a success because the rest of the world is still ravaged by it and it is still spreading and mutating

If you think herd immunity has much to do with vaccines, then I have a bridge to sell you. It’s a natural process. There were no vaccines in 1920 when the Spanish flu finally died out, and keep in mind, at its height, the Spanish Flu made COVID-19 look like a pool party and it definitely did not discriminate according to age or pre existing conditions, yet herd immunity was eventually reached.

 

[DoctorWho85]

If you think herd immunity has much to do with vaccines, then I have a bridge to sell you. It’s a natural process. There were no vaccines in 1920 when the Spanish flu finally died out, and keep in mind, at its height, the Spanish Flu made COVID-19 look like a pool party and it definitely did not discriminate according to age or pre existing conditions, yet herd immunity was eventually reached.

You're failing to take into consideration that the Spanish Flu was just another strain of the flu. And it killed more people because, like Texas and Florida, people did not take it seriously. COVID-19 has shown that even after recovery, there is still long term side effects from the virus. Herd immunity is achieved at a much more rapid pace with vaccines. Only side effect of the vaccine is thousands of lives saved. You clearly have zero knowledge of science outside of google.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

You clearly have zero knowledge of science outside of google.

I worked in the health care industry in R&D for 30 years before retiring 2 summers ago. You should be inoculated against spreading viral misinformation on a college sports fan board. Have a great day!!!

 

[Marbles90]

cases, hospitalizations, and deaths have gone down in all states.

Michigan is holding on line 2 (check their updated numbers).

As for Florida, everyone thinks it is the Wild Wild West just because the state is not closing and restricting. I just got back from spending most of the winter down there (working remotely so might as well be in warm weather). Everything is open and people are free to go out but that does not mean they are not wearing masks and being cautious. Every business is requiring masks and social distancing.

People by nature are going to do what they as individuals are comfortable with. If they are comfortable gathering, they will. If the state restricts where they can gather they will do it in their homes. If people do not feel safe, they won't go out. It was nice being in FL where I could decide for myself what I felt comfortable doing and not the state telling me what I can and cannot do. And as others have pointed out, the FL numbers have not been any better or worse than states that have strict restrictions.

 

[Palatine]

Nothing amazing. It's a bit of sausage making and random distribution.
After a year everyone who understands science should realize Covid is spreading and being contained independent of state policy.
States have chosen drastically different vaccination priorities yet cases, hospitalizations, and deaths have gone down in all states.

It may not be amazing but it is counter to what Fauci and the CDC has told us for over a year -- that lockdowns have an effect. At the very least it is something that should be explored. There doesn't seem to be any correlation between strict lockdowns and the progression of infections.

At this point, there has been so much disinformation and just plain bad guesses that a scientifically agnostic group should do the post mortem. Just over a year ago Fauci told us we didn't need masks, now he's wearing two. He should be nowhere near the group that tells us what actually happened.

 

[Hoophound]

If people stayed home, the shutdowns would work. Most people don’t/can’t stay home for long.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

So you believe CDC has been incompetent and local and national media have been asleep at the wheel??

You honestly believe bodies are piling up at morgues and no one noticed it?

Didn't say deaths, but yes I beleive there is a reason the Governor castrated the data collection process months ago. Not to mention, deaths of those who weren't diagnosed prior to death aren't being counted. This is happening is several states, but sure..governments never lie.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

If people stayed home, the shutdowns would work. Most people don’t/can’t stay home for long.

Shutdowns generally do not work in the absence of a vaccine. Population segments that become isolated over time, become more susceptible to disease, not less. Case in point were the Hawaiian and Tahitian islanders who had absolutely no resistance to diseases brought by European explorers, and died by the thousands.

 

[gtcam]

Florida and Texas will be the reason the rest of the country gets screwed if they don't get their collective crap together.

yeah - ok