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8-1 soon to be 9-1 heading into Gonzaga game. Haven't had our starting five together and be 100% healthy yet. Role players-esp. Johnson/Diarra/Ball- playing solid BB.One three pointer going down from beating Kansas at Kansas.

Noticed how smooth offense flowed with Castle in game vs UNC despite being "rusty"/limited minutes and still getting back into game shape. Solo starting to see the ball go into the hoop.

Gonna be a fun ride.
 
Pretty good? Outstanding in my opinion but we have been spoiled.
It hinges on the Gonzaga game.

Beating cupcakes and mediocre-to-good OOC opponents at home (or MSG, basically home) is holding serve.

If we lose both of our top 10 road (or semi-road) games, it'll feel like we could have done more. I'd consider:

Beat Gonzaga: 80-90th percentile OOC
Lose to Gonzaga: 50-60th percentile OOC
 
A healthy Cam Spencer against KS we're undefeated.
A healthy Castle, a healthy DC. We just needed a bit more to drag our tattered group across the finish line.

Following up last season with this start shows that Hurley didn't strike it lucky with alpha males last year, like some would say 2014 was. He has the perfect combo of building a rigid structure/culture, while being malleable to the specific talents of this particular team.

It should be qualified that this success is very unlikely without the assistant coaches, though their hires was Hurley's doing as well. Here's hoping the band stays together for a couple more runs.
 
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Really struck me how different a guy Castle is athletically than everyone else on the team. He had a baseline drive along the baseline against UNC where he was just gliding and it looked completely effortless. Can’t wait for him to get fully back in the mix. Glad we have a cupcake and he has another 7 days to recoup heading to Seattle.
 
It's hard for me to agree with Dan Hurley that last year's team was better than this year's team *at this time of year. I don't think this team would have to claw back against GTown at home.
 
It's hard for me to agree with Dan Hurley that last year's team was better than this year's team *at this time of year. I don't think this team would have to claw back against GTown at home.
He doesn't necessarily mean it but what else could he say.
 
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Yes, and a good night at the free throw line would have done it too.
Even an average night at the line. We were putrid. But that crowd does affect those. Students behind both baskets.

Agree with others, I'd like to see a big true road win.
 
A healthy Cam Spencer, a healthy Karaban, a healthy Clingan, or a healthy Castle would have been enough for the win. When you think about it, it's amazing we came within an inch of winning.
From a Kansas fan, "We got you guys on the right night at the right place...Where you guys are now isn't where you'll be at the end of the season. We are who we are already."
 
From a Kansas fan, "We got you guys on the right night at the right place...Where you guys are now isn't where you'll be at the end of the season. We are who we are already."
That's not true either. Jackson is going to get a lot better. Timberlake might, but who knows. No team is what it will be later in the year. I'd say Marquette is one team that doesn't really feature any young guys that can make major leaps, they may be closest to "done".
 
Really struck me how different a guy Castle is athletically than everyone else on the team. He had a baseline drive along the baseline against UNC where he was just gliding and it looked completely effortless. Can’t wait for him to get fully back in the mix. Glad we have a cupcake and he has another 7 days to recoup heading to Seattle.
My biggest observation regarding Castle is how easily he gets wherever he wants to go while handling the ball. I don't even think what I'm referring to is based on his athleticism. His feel for the game is tremendous and his handle seems rock solid.
 
That's not true either. Jackson is going to get a lot better. Timberlake might, but who knows. No team is what it will be later in the year. I'd say Marquette is one team that doesn't really feature any young guys that can make major leaps, they may be closest to "done".
His point is he knows Kansas got away with one and UConn has a lot more upside than Kansas does. He knew Spencer was hurt, he knew Clingan was hurt, he knew UConn didn't have Castle.

Both teams will get better, UConn has significantly more upside.
 
It's hard for me to agree with Dan Hurley that last year's team was better than this year's team *at this time of year. I don't think this team would have to claw back against GTown at home.

That's a pretty weak barometer.
 
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I watched the last men's game through ESPN on my computer, and at the same time followed the ESPN APP gamecast on my phone to follow the box score.

You know, the APP was 7-8 seconds ahead of the live game.

I would have figured, maybe the other way around.
 
His point is he knows Kansas got away with one and UConn has a lot more upside than Kansas does. He knew Spencer was hurt, he knew Clingan was hurt, he knew UConn didn't have Castle.

Both teams will get better, UConn has significantly more upside.
This is exactly how I feel about Texas. I say we still beat them with Disu and Shedrick but they have similar upside.
 
His point is he knows Kansas got away with one and UConn has a lot more upside than Kansas does. He knew Spencer was hurt, he knew Clingan was hurt, he knew UConn didn't have Castle.

Both teams will get better, UConn has significantly more upside.
I wouldn't say significantly more, but I generally agree we have more room to improve. Newton has a lot of downside from the way he played in that game. Great player, but he was making unbelievably tough shots and scoring at a level we won't normally see. He bailed us out.
 
I wouldn't say significantly more, but I generally agree we have more room to improve. Newton has a lot of downside from the way he played in that game. Great player, but he was making unbelievably tough shots and scoring at a level we won't normally see. He bailed us out.
I disagree on newton. That’s the player he’s been for a while now
 
Pretty good? Outstanding in my opinion but we have been spoiled.
Y'know why it's not outstanding? Because we coulda beat Kansas. But knowing that we got those guys will pay dividends.
 
I wouldn't say significantly more, but I generally agree we have more room to improve. Newton has a lot of downside from the way he played in that game. Great player, but he was making unbelievably tough shots and scoring at a level we won't normally see. He bailed us out.

Yeah I don’t agree with that. We have a lot of weapons. When they’re not firing Newton takes on more of the scoring load. But I don’t think his performance against KU was some kind of freak thing. He could score a hell of a lot more night in and night out if we needed it.
 
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It's hard for me to agree with Dan Hurley that last year's team was better than this year's team *at this time of year. I don't think this team would have to claw back against GTown at home.
"At this time last year" we smoked the team that everyone ended up thinking was the best team for the majority of last year. We were freaking great "at this time last year". This team hasn't even hit their stride yet and we barely lose at Kansas. That guy who has us at the top of his Power Ratings is correct.
 
I wouldn't say significantly more, but I generally agree we have more room to improve. Newton has a lot of downside from the way he played in that game. Great player, but he was making unbelievably tough shots and scoring at a level we won't normally see. He bailed us out.

KU basically played seven guys against UConn. Well six plus spot minutes from Timberlake, Braun and McDowell. UConn only played seven guys.

Let's start with the upperclassmen:

For KU KJ Adams overperformed but no one really underperformed from the other five. Slightly above average for McCullom, slightly below from Hunter. For UConn Newton overperformed but Karaban and Cam played well below average.

KJ Adams had his best game (or at least top 3) in a KU uniform against UConn. I don't see it getting better in a return game. On the flipside his counterpart Karaban had a below average game in many respects. Now it could be all KJ Adams being better, but Karaban also missed at least two pretty open shots from three. And KJ Adams hit some shots he normally doesn't. I'd bet on a rematch being closer. Either way I don't see the potential upside here for KU while I do see some for UConn.

Hunter Dickinson and Clingan, I would say this went pretty much as expected though I can't see how Hunter would do better in a rematch unless he takes and makes more shots from three, which I guess is possible but does KU want him taking more than four threes? If they meet again I assume Clingan will be 100%. Let's just call this even in terms of a future matchup potential.

Newton/Cam and Harris/McCullum. Harris was slightly below average but not far off his normal game this year, McCullum was about on average. Newton played one of his better scoring games and Cam one of his worst. I would say a healthy Cam probably comes close to matching any loss in output Newton has in the next game. If you want to argue Newton's next game has huge downside, I'd argue Cam's can't get worse and he likely makes a few of his open threes. On balance their combined average was only slightly better than normal against KU (37 vs an average of 33). Again, even balancing it out I'd say any "downside" by Newton is matched by potential upside from Cam.


The bench vets:
Timberlake and Braun vs Samson and Diarra. I guess theoretically Timberlake has the most room for improvement because he has been horrendously below expectations all year but that is far below any reasonable expectations right now. I'll say Timberlake suddenly being a competent player for KU is their biggest upside advantage amongst the upperclassmen. I don't know how realistic that is right now. Take away that first game and he is 3/18 from three this year, 7/28 total and averaging 2.1 PPG, he seems to be getting worse by the game instead of better. But a light switch could flip I guess. It's not like he isn't getting minutes either at 12 per game, 11 per if you exclude the first game.

The freshmen starters:
Jackson vs Ball : Jackson played slightly better than Ball in the game but I would say the upside between the two is pretty even. If anything Ball appears to be breaking out sooner than Jackson as witnessed in the UNC game. Still let's call this a toss up in terms of upside.

The freshmen bench:
Furphy was the only KU player to get significant run for KU and I do like him. I think he could be a very good player in a year for KU. However, here is where the significant upside for UConn comes in. Castle is just heads and shoulders better than any player KU has off the bench and will likely be starting in any future matchup. And his upside far outclasses Jackson as well and you would be blind to not see it.

There are some variables though. For KU, can McDowell show his potential? Can Stewart? Neither played much/at all in the game but both have shown glimpses of potential. I'd say McDowells game agianst UT was an eye-opener, but he hasn't done anything since, almost literally.

Throw in the next game being at a neutral site...

Now all that doesn't mean UConn will win the next game. There are too many variables to call that but UConn easily has a significantly higher upside in a fully healthy rematch based solely on Castle.
 
Agreed. But we need to beat the Zags before going into conference play. Big East Conference play will still be tough to get through.
 
I watched the last men's game through ESPN on my computer, and at the same time followed the ESPN APP gamecast on my phone to follow the box score.

You know, the APP was 7-8 seconds ahead of the live game.

I would have figured, maybe the other way around.
The app may have been ahead of the broadcast.. if it was ahead of the live game you have some real news there
 
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