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Message: [QUOTE="GetTheFacts, post: 2852013, member: 6699"] You made a positive assumption on almost all of these players. I'm all for optimism but thinking that we're going to see a significant improvement from all of these players is very wishful thinking. Ollie wasn't a good coach, we know that. But I think it's important to keep in mind that the recruiting classes he was pulling in towards the end of his tenure were not very good. Gilbert, Adams and Wilson are the only four-star recruits we have, according to ESPN. And I'm not sure how you declare Gilbert as a non-question mark when he's had surgery on his shoulder three times since arriving on campus two years ago. The depth and coaching are improved, or at least they should be, but I wouldn't say the talent is 'much improved'. Just because we are returning players does not mean we are returning production. [/QUOTE]