ppl are missingthis news

[Dann]

in the JC article on espn

"He's a great kid and been really positive and we're close to adding another kid," Jim Calhoun said. "We've added two more scholarships. We're off the penalty (of losing two scholarships due to a poor APR). We had 10 scholarships last year and now we're back up to 12."

this is BIG!!!! it was one of the things ppl forget about with this apr stuff for next years ncaat.

edit:
for a while now a few of us have been waiting to here about this. we mostly asumed that we could get 1 of the 2 back for good behavior(ark comparisons). we got both back. thats huge towards loading up a roster for the next couple years. after next season we will be back to a full 13 with the ncaa ship docking being done from the miles saga.

so the ncaa while bad to us with this postseason ban, atleast didn't kill us off completely. still want there heads but this is positive news. they are atleast showing they see the improvement and are considering what we have done recently. gives me a ounce of hope towards a rule change come summer for the years used towards the ncaat...

we need to add 2 or 3 kids now for this class. the holy cross kid may be one of them now for sure witht he room we have and he can play asap.

1-omar-fr
2-dd-so
3-boat-so
4-brad-so(bball wise)
5-9-bazz/gif/scoe/to/wolf-jr
10-
11-
12-
13-ncaa year 3 of 3

if lamb and ad come back they are spots 10 and 11. if only 1 comes back then spot 10. if both go pro then 10/11/12 are all open now.

-we need 1 or 2 big guys depending on ad
-we need a combo guard or shooting wing

-holy cross kid may be a perfect fit. a 4th guard that can compete for pt, he can play right away and hes here for 1 year(the year of the ncaat issue). that opens his slot back up for the next class.

next years class may be a huge one for us. looks like our recruit trail is going to heat up quick here now...

 

[ibleedhuskyblue]

wow....i didnt even see that. good catch.

great news...i agree

 

[caw]

in the JC article on espn

"He's a great kid and been really positive and we're close to adding another kid," Jim Calhoun said. "We've added two more scholarships. We're off the penalty (of losing two scholarships due to a poor APR). We had 10 scholarships last year and now we're back up to 12."

this is BIG!!!! it was one of the things ppl forget about with this apr stuff for next years ncaat

I was wondering about this, considering UConn is not eligible though, I would like to save some of the scholarships to go after 2013 kids, if there isn't a gem willing to commit.

 

[Tenspro2002]

How can our scores be good enough to not lose scholarships, but we're banned from the postseason? Is it that they just changed (stiffened) the penalty from scholly reduction to postseason ban? Or are we actually being credited for having our scores improve?

It seems like there are some inconsistencies here.

 

[upstater]

Given all the transfers from the end of the bench, one wonders about the need for 13 scholarships anymore.

 

[jfuchs91]

Any chance that one of the scholarships goes to Brandon Allen?

 

[caw]

How can our scores be good enough to not lose scholarships, but we're banned from the postseason? Is it that they just changed (stiffened) the penalty from scholly reduction to postseason ban? Or are we actually being credited for having our scores improve?

It seems like there are some inconsistencies here.

I'm pretty sure UConn is still below the score needed to not get a scholarship reduction. It sounds like that part of the waiver was granted. I could be wrong though. In this case, the NCAA has a ton more precedent that it has to follow when allowing UConn to get scholarships back. It's still a silly notion.

There are only 3 years worth of scores known online:
2008-2009 - 844
2009-2010 - 826
2010-2011 - reported at 975

It's almost impossible UConn would be above 925 (with 925 being the 4 year average needed to not get any sanctions before the new 930 rule), unless 2007-2008 had a ton more scholarship players compared to 2008-2009 and 2009-2010.

In fact, I'm surprised UConn would get both scholarships back with Jamal Coombs-McDaniel accounting for a player that left school and "failed academically." I guess they may not view Jamal Coombs-McDaniel as having "failed academically." I'm not quite sure how that works.

 

[DogMania]

How can our scores be good enough to not lose scholarships, but we're banned from the postseason? Is it that they just changed (stiffened) the penalty from scholly reduction to postseason ban? Or are we actually being credited for having our scores improve?

It seems like there are some inconsistencies here.

I didn't read the original article but I think someone explained this already in this thread. Just as the NCAA didn't dock Arkansas a ship or two they deserved to lose a year or two ago due to showing APR progress over the latter two years of that 4 year run, even though their 4 year number warranted such, they seem to be doing the same thing for UConn.

Now with that said, how much does that help UConn since it will be extremely hard for them to add elite high major talent due to the tournament ban. Someone suggested we wait and fill them in 2013. Really! UConn would have been able to fill those spots anyways once the new 4 year APR comes out. But granted, I do understand the point of not adding a bunch of marginal 2012 recruits who would take up a ship that could be offered to some better 2013 recruit.

We've seen JC sign some spring diamonds-in-the-rough, but have also seen him sign a lot of Jamal Trice's over the years that just simply weren't high major conference caliber talent. With Alex and possibly AD moving on, they probably need a ready-to-play big man. The question is, is there one out there who both fits that description and is interested in UConn.

If this is not a catch-22 scenario I don't know what is. You can now date whoever you want (add 2 more recruits) but we kicked your ass so badly making you too ugly to even look at. Am I the only one that sees it this way?

With that said, if there's a coach who can sell fridges to Eskimos, it's JC.

 

[caw]

This actually really should sell UConn as a place for transfers who will need to sit out a year. IMO that may be a good way to go if Calhoun wants to fill these final spots. Go all ISU on people.

 

[johnhuskies95]

If Oriakhi and Lamb are both gone, but Drummond comes back, we'll be using 10 scholarships with Omar.

If Evans comes in that uses up 11 scholarships and we'd only have room for one more player.

 

[DogMania]

This actually really should sell UConn as a place for transfers who will need to sit out a year. IMO that may be a good way to go if Calhoun wants to fill these final spots. Go all ISU on people.

Unless these transfers are both a good fit and legit high major talent, I'd say no. I think the staff should and are trying to find some legit talent that can play this upcoming season and continue to develop into very good players over the next few years. I'd rather have players who can get a year of the system and BE experience under their belts than ones that have to sit out a year. If they can't find those type of recruits, then simply focus on filling those spots in 2013. Not ideal, but to all practical purposes, the NCAA accomplished hurting UConn in the area of recruiting even though they gave those ships back due to the NCAA tournament ban.

I wonder if there is any oversees talent that has always like UConn and doesn't mind the post season ban and sees their development as a 2 to 3 year venture. Obviously, any one-and-done type talent would have no interest in UConn, but the 2 to 3 year type talent might still see the pros of UConn outweighing this issue.

 

[Dann]

If Oriakhi and Lamb are both gone, but Drummond comes back, we'll be using 10 scholarships with Omar.

If Evans comes in that uses up 11 scholarships and we'd only have room for one more player.

yes, but in this case we have a legit big guy in ad and a 4th guard in evans. so that last spot should be for a big recruit(obekena sp?) or a 1 and done transfer big man.

the issue is we have 9 right now of 12 slots for sure filled. lamb/ad/evans are all ?s until we know more. the chance of all three of those guys being in husky unis next year is extremely slim, so were going to see atleast 1 more recruit if not 2 depending on stuff. worst case is evans doesn't come here and both ad/jl both go pro. then were looking for 3 guys(2 big guys and 1 combo guard)

 

[Dann]

Any chance that one of the scholarships goes to Brandon Allen?

while it would be a nice gesture, i'm not really for it in this case. hes going to be a soph so that would lock him in a ship spot for the next 3 years. if he can't earn atleast small pt every game, then imho its not worth the use vs a new player. if this was next year the the 13th ship was now open i would revisit it if he was getting pt at all. i think hes a above average walkon and all, but he saw the court this past year becuase of a extreme issue we had. its not like he was in practice beating our 3rd guard off the dribble and earned fair pt. we had nothing behind bazz with boat out and only 3 guards total on the roster.

 

[DogMania]

yes, but in this case we have a legit big guy in ad and a 4th guard in evans. so that last spot should be for a big recruit(obekena sp?) or a 1 and done transfer big man.

the issue is we have 9 right now of 12 slots for sure filled. lamb/ad/evans are all ?s until we know more. the chance of all three of those guys being in husky unis next year is extremely slim, so were going to see atleast 1 more recruit if not 2 depending on stuff. worst case is evans doesn't come here and both ad/jl both go pro. then were looking for 3 guys(2 big guys and 1 combo guard)

If that worse case scenario plays out, are there really 3 recruits out there that are ready to play and better than the returning cast? I'm curious to see how this plays out. We didn't expect the 2011/12 team to include AD and DD, so maybe JC and his staff have some more surprises up their sleeves. With all the bad stuff coming out last spring and summer, the staff was able to convince these two, though granted one is from the home state. So maybe they still have a compelling enough case to convince a few very good players to come. It's the one-and-done types that likely have zero interest in UConn for obvious reasons.

 

[Dann]

If that worse case scenario plays out, are there really 3 recruits out there that are ready to play and better than the returning cast? I'm curious to see how this plays out. We didn't expect the 2011/12 team to include AD and DD, so maybe JC and his staff have some more surprises up their sleeves. With all the bad stuff coming out last spring and summer, the staff was able to convince these two, though granted one is from the home state. So maybe they still have a compelling enough case to convince a few very good players to come. It's the one-and-done types that likely have zero interest in UConn for obvious reasons.

names still out there that are big guys or guards:

long shots-
parker
noel
bazz
jefferson
walker

possible-
obekpa
boswell

 

[Walker11]

hes going to be a soph so that would lock him in a ship spot for the next 3 years. .

Scholarships are year to year. This is something that happens. A team will have an extra ship and instead of wasting it, will put a walk on on scholarship with the understanding that it is temporary.

 

[Dann]

Scholarships are year to year. This is something that happens. A team will have an extra ship and instead of wasting it, will put a walk on on scholarship with the understanding that it is temporary.

true, but considering what we have on this roster how could we give him a ship if hes not going to get any pt when we could get a recruit that can give us 10 mins a game off the bench? were thin right now. considering wolf/brad don't get much pt if any, we really need some guys who can fill minutes. brad/wolf/ncaa take 3 of the ships for sure next year. that leaves us with 10 ships for quality guys who will play. if we give allen 1 of those then were down to 9. not to mention if evans gets one how much can he play, he would be the 4th guard. we need that 4th guard but its a bench piece for small pt, can allen fill that? based off this year i would say no.

 

[Walker11]

true, but considering what we have on this roster how could we give him a ship if hes not going to get any pt when we could get a recruit that can give us 10 mins a game off the bench? were thin right now. considering wolf/brad don't get much pt if any, we really need some guys who can fill minutes. brad/wolf/ncaa take 3 of the ships for sure next year. that leaves us with 10 ships for quality guys who will play. if we give allen 1 of those then were down to 9. not to mention if evans gets one how much can he play, he would be the 4th guard. we need that 4th guard but its a bench piece for small pt, can allen fill that? based off this year i would say no.

I'd rather give Allen a ship for one year than give a marginal player a ship for 4, or likely 1 year as well because we have seen how this plays out before. It is how we are in this APR mess, after all.

 

[uconnfan68]

How can our scores be good enough to not lose scholarships, but we're banned from the postseason? Is it that they just changed (stiffened) the penalty from scholly reduction to postseason ban? Or are we actually being credited for having our scores improve?

It seems like there are some inconsistencies here.

Don't give them any ideas. They'll retroactively reduce the scholarships again.

 

[caw]

Let's say UConn returns the following:

Napier
Boatright
Giffey
Roscoe
Olander
Daniels
Wolf
Bradley

and bring in:
Calhoun.

That means there are 3 scholarships left.

Napier/Boatright/Calhoun/Allen would be the backcourt
Giffey/Daniels the 3
Roscoe/Olander the 4
Wolf/Bradley the 5

I doubt UConn will be able to get a quality contributor to come next year (non-transfer). It's going to be hard to get someone when the BET and NCAAT are out of play for their first year. If Calhoun can get someone, that's great, but if not, using the scholarship on Allen for a year would be a nice gesture.

Of course if Drummond comes back then really a decent fourth guard would set things up nicely and you could still use the last scholarship on Allen.

 

[dogpause]

This actually really should sell UConn as a place for transfers who will need to sit out a year. IMO that may be a good way to go if Calhoun wants to fill these final spots. Go all ISU on people.

Brilliant strategy. Any names come to mind?

 

[BLUEDOGHOUSE]

Brilliant strategy. Any names come to mind?

Tony Mitchell pre season 2nd team All SEC hits the market for 2013/14.

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebas...from-alabama-crimson-tide-scholarships-040612

http://espn.go.com/colleges/alabama...mitchell-charles-hankerson-jr-granted-release

Mitchell could be the biggest name with some baggage. I don't think UConn will move in this direction because the team will have Seniors potentially filling this slot in 2013/14. Things may be fluid however and this could be considered a major upgrade with unlimited risk also.

UConn may roll the dice in attempt to win it all in 2013/14 calhouns final year.

JMHO