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The tournament is basically a P3 invitational plus Duke. No doubt do I think those conferences use this as a justification for expanding the tournament, or worse. They don’t care that FAU and SDSU made it to the Final Four 2 years ago. Hope I’m wrong.
 
UConnTrumbull said:
The tournament is basically a P3 invitational plus Duke. No doubt do I think those conferences use this as a justification for expanding the tournament, or worse. They don’t care that FAU and SDSU made it to the Final Four 2 years ago. Hope I’m wrong.
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Thank you for frequently reminding us that the Big East had a down year. This is important work you are doing.
 
The Big East also had a seeding issue this year. Some of the 5,6,7 seeds were a little suspect. If you think St Mary’s was better than UConn, Marquette, Creighton then you just don’t watch hoops. The powers to be knew what they were doing by slating us in those 8-9 death sentence games.
 
UConnTrumbull said:
The tournament is basically a P3 invitational plus Duke. No doubt do I think those conferences use this as a justification for expanding the tournament, or worse. They don’t care that FAU and SDSU made it to the Final Four 2 years ago. Hope I’m wrong.
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I'm really worried this launches Greg Sankey's tournament ideas into action. He's hellbent on destroying the sport. I don't think this tourney should be considered a referendum on any changes...but I absolutely do think some people think that way.
 
NHUConnfan said:
I'm really worried this launches Greg Sankey's tournament ideas into action. He's hellbent on destroying the sport. I don't think this tourney should be considered a referendum on any changes...but I absolutely do think some people think that way.
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Sadly, this tournament played out perfect to their future designs.
 
Pmac923 said:
The Big East also had a seeding issue this year. Some of the 5,6,7 seeds were a little suspect. If you think St Mary’s was better than UConn, Marquette, Creighton then you just don’t watch hoops. The powers to be knew what they were doing by slating us in those 8-9 death sentence games.
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St. John’s and Marquette losing to mediocre teams doesn’t help much.
 
Bongo Fury said:
Survival of the fittest(wealthiest). Would be nice if UConn was included
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That's why I think a merger between the ACC and Big East makes so much sense, not just for basketball. I think all of these schools crave stability, and the best way to do it at this point is to forge your own path and not wait to see what the SEC/Big 10/Big 12 do next. It's trending to 4 power conferences of 20ish teams each. Despite FSU and Clemson trying to weasel their way into the SEC, I just don't see it happening...and thus they need to buck up and accept that they can be headliners of the East Coast superconference.
 
NHUConnfan said:
That's why I think a merger between the ACC and Big East makes so much sense, not just for basketball. I think all of these schools crave stability, and the best way to do it at this point is to forge your own path and not wait to see what the SEC/Big 10/Big 12 do next. It's trending to 4 power conferences of 20ish teams each. Despite FSU and Clemson trying to weasel their way into the SEC, I just don't see it happening...and thus they need to buck up and accept that they can be headliners of the East Coast superconference.
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There are (at least) two major issues:

1. There is significant overlap in TV markets so it doesn't do much to bring in more media revenue, especially for the ACC schools.
2. Conferences with football and non-football schools cannot survive long term. We've been down that path before. Eventually, all the Big East schools, except UConn, get tossed aside. I'm not sure the non-football schools want to do that again. They, rightfully so, felt like second-class members when the Big East first expanded into football ~30 years ago.

An ACC-Big East merger would benefit UConn but I would be hard pressed to ID another school that would come out ahead.
 
Stew Crew said:
There are (at least) two major issues:

1. There is significant overlap in TV markets so it doesn't do much to bring in more media revenue, especially for the ACC schools.
2. Conferences with football and non-football schools cannot survive long term. We've been down that path before. Eventually, all the Big East schools, except UConn, get tossed aside. I'm not sure the non-football schools want to do that again. They, rightfully so, felt like second-class members when the Big East first expanded into football ~30 years ago.

An ACC-Big East merger would benefit UConn but I would be hard pressed to ID another school that would come out ahead.
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While I agree I think the “appeal” to the non-football members is the survival element. Do you want to more closely resemble the A10 or a power conference even if you are second tier. I don’t know how the logistics would work but I like the idea. And so does Hurley.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
The ratings will dictate if Sankey gets to make it a P2 only tournament or not.
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Historically, the power programs always draw better. So I would assume it will play out like that.
 
There is a WSJ article today in the sports section saying the days of Cinderella are gone. If a mid major lands a stud, they get bid away to a P3 for major NIL. The Fairfields of the world are just feeder programs.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
Historically, the power programs always draw better. So I would assume it will play out like that.
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Which team are you going to become a fan of? You strike me as a front-runner, so I am going with Alabama.
 
Stew Crew said:
There are (at least) two major issues:

1. There is significant overlap in TV markets so it doesn't do much to bring in more media revenue, especially for the ACC schools.
2. Conferences with football and non-football schools cannot survive long term. We've been down that path before. Eventually, all the Big East schools, except UConn, get tossed aside. I'm not sure the non-football schools want to do that again. They, rightfully so, felt like second-class members when the Big East first expanded into football ~30 years ago.

An ACC-Big East merger would benefit UConn but I would be hard pressed to ID another school that would come out ahead.
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Non-football schools might not like it, but do they really have a choice?

Basically, their choices are A10 quality type of league going forward or be second class citizens in a 2nd tier power conference. I know which I would choose if I am DePaul or Creighton.
 
NHUConnfan said:
That's why I think a merger between the ACC and Big East makes so much sense, not just for basketball. I think all of these schools crave stability, and the best way to do it at this point is to forge your own path and not wait to see what the SEC/Big 10/Big 12 do next. It's trending to 4 power conferences of 20ish teams each. Despite FSU and Clemson trying to weasel their way into the SEC, I just don't see it happening...and thus they need to buck up and accept that they can be headliners of the East Coast superconference.
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Why does the ACC need the Big East? If anything just pluck the top 2 brands and put the Big East out of business.
 
Why earn it when you can buy it. Tragedy what’s happening. What makes college sports great are the Cinderellas.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
If you are saying that UConn can not compete, it is fair to assume that you are going to pick another team.
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You have thousands of post on the conference realignment forum pontificating about the future of college sports, but me stating that power league schools draw more than Cinderellas is met with hurrr durrr go follow Michigan State?

Got it.
 
Emmert’s legacy of destruction is almost complete. His use of athletes in video games gave us NIL. But he had the foresight to remove the sit if you transfer rule to turbocharge the collapse of college sports as we knew it.
 
NHUConnfan said:
I'm really worried this launches Greg Sankey's tournament ideas into action. He's hellbent on destroying the sport. I don't think this tourney should be considered a referendum on any changes...but I absolutely do think some people think that way.
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My one hope is that ratings crater. (But I'm sure they wont)
With no Cinderellas, this is such a boring sweet 16, I'm not even sure I'm going to watch ... for the first time ever.
 
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