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Message: [QUOTE="msf22b, post: 5152142, member: 656"] the ignored point I made in the game thread ...among other reasons being a formatting issue...still holds...and I don't think "vastly improved post play" was...is...a factor at all. Sure, would be nice! Our kids thought they were in a nice. polite croquet tourney and were set up to win style points and perhaps, even the game... In the ND game, that approach was exposed for the entire evening (afternoon?) Last night, we were smacked around again, similarly throughout the first half. Either the coaches were able to convey or the players themselves figured out what the nature of this exhibition was, the gloves came off; niceties were exercised, there was a realization about the nature of the contest they were in and.... they almost pulled off a victory from a significant deficit; points and attitude. It had absolutely nothing to do with improved or lack of post play...for the most part, the two were glued to the bench while Geno played small and aggressive. As noted in a different thread, our young Egyptian lass had a decent +/- for not the first time....whether that has any real life meaning is a question. This teams prospects (at a least at this juncture) do not rely on excellent post play [/QUOTE]