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Message: [QUOTE="dennismenace, post: 5280102, member: 6158"] I could not understand that either. In his favor he played very hard and thus "Charley Hustle." He could also be the described as the epitome of a winning player because he gave his all out there on the field. But he could have been labeled a banjo hitter or punch and judy hitter had it not been for the media hype that surrounded him; especially the likes of Garagiola or Cosell. So in many respects the on field teammate who set the ultimate example but not comparable to talent and skills of many other hall of famers. Off field is another story. Gambling addiction like other forms of addiction often leads people to do things they would otherwise not do. [/QUOTE]