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Message: [QUOTE="Alydar, post: 4012890, member: 730"] That's understandable for players and coaches. They have a great deal invested. To fall short of their goal feels like failure to them but we are just fans. As a fan all I invest is the cost of watching them play. I always get great value so every season has been a success for me. They owe me nothing. I remember crying myself to sleep when my Giants lost to the Packers in 61 & 62. My investment was largely emotional but when you are a kid that's a lot and to me then 1961-1963 were failures. Nowadays I change the channel if they play like crap and wish they were relatively as good now as they were then. :) [/QUOTE]