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Message: [QUOTE="willtalk, post: 3326428, member: 1220"] Ranking Arizona St over Arizona is an example of raters going on reputation or last seasons record rather than actual knowledge. Anyone who follows the Pac 12 already knew about Arizona vs Arizona St. One thing though -- A team that relies on a player like McDonald, while more apt to beat superior teams on any given night, is also vulnerable to being upset by lesser teams as well. The thing is that Arizona has added good players to improve their depth this year to make those later upsets less likely. In this respect, they are much like TA&M. [/QUOTE]