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Message: [QUOTE="dabears17, post: 4497111, member: 10508"] Coaches poll has them at 14 and Massey has them at 15, so #8 is probably a little high. But didn't teams ahead of them in the AP poll have losses last week? Sometimes it's not what you did, but that teams ahead of you lost. Notre Dame lost to North Carolina, Utah lost to Colorado, NC State lost to Boston College, Virgina Tech lost to Miami, Iowa State lost to Oklahoma, and Michigan lost to Iowa. The two teams I'm most worried about Stanford losing to in conference play is Utah and UCLA. I worry about away games at Arizona also. Oregon State and Oregon away worry me as well, but the PAC-12 schedule rotates so you only play one pair of schools once every year. This year Stanford only plays the Oregons at Stanford. UCLA has two losses, one against South Carolina and one at Oregon State having one day to adjust to one of their best players being hurt. Rivalry games are pretty competitive in the PAC-12. Stanford came close to losing at Cal. Colorado beat Utah at Colorado. Massey has the PAC-12 ranked as the toughest conference, currently #3 SOS, projected as the #1 Conference SOS. [/QUOTE]