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Message: [QUOTE="azfan, post: 4705315, member: 7748"] Pac 12 or Pac 11 or Pac 8 ..... The defining characteristic has been incompetence. We now know that Larry Scott and his quislings were ethically challenged and it may be the case with the current "leader." This is a result in large part art result of member school presidents who have a focus other than big time athletics. In the valley of the Sun in addition to 26 consecutive high temps above 110 Tempe is plagued by wannabe developer and ethically challenged Michael Crowe. His focus is abusing the tax exempt status afforded higher education to engage in development activities along Tempe Town lake and other areas. Other Pac schools may have presidents who are either gullible and buy the party line spewed by Larry Scott and his successors or like Crow have their attention elsewhere. [/QUOTE]