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Pitino just signed Sanon and the article mentions that they have 3-4 players by themselves alone that could get 5 million.
Are we going to be spending the same amount number 1? Number 2 if we don’t how can we compete with that?
 
husky429 said:
We don't know exact numbers for NIL. Someone (maybe on SC?) has mentioned that we have over a million pegged for a starting PG.
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That won’t do it. We will need at least 7 million for the whole team? Duke is paying about 17 million? Cooper Flagg got 4-5 million alone.
Has anyone got real stats on the top team‘s total NIL? BE NIL?
Is there someone here that can give us somewhat real projections on this?
 
jibsey said:
That won’t do it. We will need at least 7 million for the whole team? Duke is paying about 17 million? Cooper Flagg got 4-5 million alone.
Has anyone got real stats on the top team‘s total NIL? BE NIL?
Is there someone here that can give us somewhat real projections on this?
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it won't be long before there's an NIL overload and these large numbers go away. I'm not sure it'll matter because the same teams (Duke, UK, etc) will still be the highest bidder.
 
I believe that this is one area where we don't need to be overly concerned.

Yes, there are schools that can easily outspend us and yes, the NIL dollars needed to secure certain players will continue to grow, but will stabilize somewhere not too far down the road.

We aren't building an entire roster by bringing in players through bidding wars and if anyone has been paying attention, roster building based on mercenaries isn't an effective way to win titles.

Would we be better off if we had more NIL dollars to spend? Yes, without question.

Does the school that spends the most NIL dollars accomplish the most? We have seen that this isn't the case.

Yes, a new wrinkle that we need to accept is that poachers will be stalking our players throughout the season and we may lose a kid here and there because someone else was willing to overpay. As long as we remain somewhat competitive with our offers we should outperform our spending (comparative to the entire field) as there is sufficient evidence that overspending seldom leads to good results.
 
College sports need a NIL cap for each sport just like the NFL has a salary cap otherwise the big dogs will never be challenged in the post season. I prefer parity when feasible - this unchecked bidding war is getting to be ridiculous.
 
To me, if NIL money was an issue for UConn, Hurley would likely be spouting off to the media about it. He seemed quite relaxed yesterday with the press gaggle, so I assume he feels we are at least in a fairly competitive place for NIL talent.
 
Of course I like how Hurley approaches getting and training up top High School talent but that takes time and experience on the floor. Pitino has a team of old NIL talent ready to win at season start. He can wrap up the BE every year while we develop and get better.
It’s a problem when you lose early season and end with an uphill climb to an 8 seed. We see what happens with that.
 
jibsey said:
That won’t do it. We will need at least 7 million for the whole team? Duke is paying about 17 million? Cooper Flagg got 4-5 million alone.
Has anyone got real stats on the top team‘s total NIL? BE NIL?
Is there someone here that can give us somewhat real projections on this?
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It’s a disadvantage to show your cards when playing high stakes poker. But it’s smart to bluff your way into winning.

SC has confirmed we are in good shape with NIL. We did very well in the football transfer portal which is far more complex and competitive than the basketball portal.

Are there programs with more NIL? Probably. Are there programs with less? Absolutely.

Regarding your concern SC provides communication between the coaching staff and the organizers of SC.

They are careful passing along information to subscribers. What they communicate is what the staff is doing and what the staff knows is happening with our current players or players that we are looking at in the portal as long as it’s information the staff determines we can know. It clarifies some of the chatter or rumors circulating in the ether that may or may not be accurate.

My unsophisticated view is it’s extremely valuable as an information source regarding NIL. The people who run it are very responsive to our questions and very involved in the NIL process.

I have made an annual premium contribution. I suggest this is the best time for people in the Boneyard to consider joining at least on a monthly basis and check it out during this frenetic period.

If you have questions about how our contributions of NIL are utilized I suggest you ask @Penfield
 
Wow, these are a huge jump in reported numbers - wasn't it just a few years ago the guy from Miami was "demanding" $500k and everyone thought that was nuts? $5mil for Flagg? Wow.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
We aren't building an entire roster by bringing in players through bidding wars and if anyone has been paying attention, roster building based on mercenaries isn't an effective way to win titles.
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There's a decent chance this is the year where a mostly mercenary team win a title.

The #1 seeds this year:
Florida - Clayton (Iona), Martin (FAU), Richard (Belmont), Chinyelu (Wash. St), Alexis (Chattanooga), Handlogten (Marshall)
Houston - Cryer (Baylor), Uzan (Okla), Wilson (Tx Tech)
Duke - James (Tulane), Gillis (Purdue)
Auburn - Broome (Morehead), Baker-Mazara (SDST), Kelly (GTech), Jones (FIU), Hudson (SMU), Pegues (Furman)

So to put it in perspective, four of Florida's starters are portal guys, Houston's two leading scorers, and Auburn's top four scorers. Duke is the outlier because they can just bring in the top freshmen every year.
 
jibsey said:
Has anyone got real stats on the top team‘s total NIL? BE NIL?
Is there someone here that can give us somewhat real projections on this?
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Let me just boot up NIL-Reference.com. How do you think you are going to get stats on private business deals between collectives and individuals?
 
boog204 said:
There's a decent chance this is the year where a mostly mercenary team win a title.

The #1 seeds this year:
Florida - Clayton (Iona), Martin (FAU), Richard (Belmont), Chinyelu (Wash. St), Alexis (Chattanooga), Handlogten (Marshall)
Houston - Cryer (Baylor), Uzan (Okla), Wilson (Tx Tech)
Duke - James (Tulane), Gillis (Purdue)
Auburn - Broome (Morehead), Baker-Mazara (SDST), Kelly (GTech), Jones (FIU), Hudson (SMU), Pegues (Furman)

So to put it in perspective, four of Florida's starters are portal guys, Houston's two leading scorers, and Auburn's top four scorers. Duke is the outlier because they can just bring in the top freshmen every year.
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I'm curious as to how many of the remaining schools (outside of Duke) have more starters in their first year on the team than returning players.

It appears that Pitino will have 60% of his starting lineup new to the system and he'll only be bringing back one significant player for the following year. I'm sure that his only focus is on one more shot at the brass ring but what he's doing isn't sustainable. He may find a way to win another title, but once he's gone that program won't have much of a foundation for continued success.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I'm curious as to how many of the remaining schools (outside of Duke) have more starters in their first year on the team than returning players.

It appears that Pitino will have 60% of his starting lineup new to the system and he'll only be bringing back one significant player for the following year. I'm sure that his only focus is on one more shot at the brass ring but what he's doing isn't sustainable. He may find a way to win another title, but once he's gone that program won't have much of a foundation for continued success.
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Looks like he bringing back Wilcher /Zubby and a bunch of transfers.
 
Don't know about basketball NIL but FB will cost you $20M to be near the top, $16M to be among the playoff contenders.
 
I just hope there’s security plans in place for multi million dollar teenage / young adult athletes. Especially the way some of these Universities are situated in certain communities.
 
Horatio said:
I just hope there’s security plans in place for multi million dollar teenage / young adult athletes. Especially the way some of these Universities are situated in certain communities.
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I have no idea what you're talking about. Do you think Karaban is walking around with a million in cash? The bigger threat BY FAR is white collar leeches.
 
husky429 said:
I have no idea what you're talking about. Do you think Karaban is walking around with a million in cash? The bigger threat BY FAR is white collar leeches.
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No one mentioned Karaban, any other name or walking around with anything. But thank you for illustrious take.
 
Horatio said:
No one mentioned Karaban, any other name or walking around with anything. But thank you for illustrious take.
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You're going to have to explain what "Especially the way some of these Universities are situated in certain communities" means to the masses.
 
husky429 said:
You're going to have to explain what "Especially the way some of these Universities are situated in certain communities" means to the masses.
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The Miami QB and his girlfriend that plays basketball there just had an incident in February. All I’m saying is if you’re creating new millionaires on college campuses, you gotta factor certain things in.
 
jibsey said:
Of course I like how Hurley approaches getting and training up top High School talent but that takes time and experience on the floor. Pitino has a team of old NIL talent ready to win at season start. He can wrap up the BE every year while we develop and get better.
It’s a problem when you lose early season and end with an uphill climb to an 8 seed. We see what happens with that.
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We didn’t get an 8 seed just because we played freshmen. We got an 8 because we lost to Nova and SH, who we should have beaten even if we didn’t play any upperclassmen
 
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