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Message: [QUOTE="champs99and04, post: 2528968, member: 488"] Yikes. I think you can defend the mediocre product, you can defend some of the misses in recruiting, but when it comes to the brutal reality that your players don't want to be a part of the program, there isn't much you can do to dress it up. As for the original topic, I don't think the board is actually that conflicted. There are a handful of people still squarely in Ollie's corner, but for the most part "waiting to see how things play out this season and hoping" has now become an optimistic take around here. The rest of it is going to boil down to variables that none of us can predict. We don't know what conference we're going to be in, we don't know whether the athletic department can withstand a buyout, and we don't know what kind of coach we can attract on the open market. The read on the actual current coach is a lot closer to consensus than those things, IMO. [/QUOTE]