OT Will any colleges in the area drop football?

[shizzle787]

As more and more high schools in New England drop football, the talent pool is getting drained. Dropping has already been thrown out there at URI. What other D-1 FBS or FCS schools could axe football? To be honest, the more the better for UConn.

 

[huskymedic]

Which high schools in New England have dropped football completely (not just moving to a Co-op relationship) in the last 3 years?

 

[shizzle787]

Which high schools in New England have dropped football completely (not just moving to a Co-op relationship) in the last 3 years?

Some in Maine, and I believe participation is down 12% in RI in the last ten years.

 

[whaler11]

Sure if BC or Rutgers drops football that would be really good for UConn.

 

[huskypantz]

I could have sworn we dropped football for the past 6 years.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Some in Maine, and I believe participation is down 12% in RI in the last ten years.

Sounds like quite a departure from your OP lol

 

[shizzle787]

Sounds like quite a departure from your OP lol

It is, but quite a few schools have dropped: Hofstra, BU, Northeastern in the last 15 years. The bleeding will continue.

 

[HuskyBandDad]

I could have sworn we dropped football for the past 6 years.

Wise . LOL.

 

[pepband99]

It is, but quite a few schools have dropped: Hofstra, BU, Northeastern in the last 15 years. The bleeding will continue.

You and @nelsonmuntz can get a room.

 

[FDNY99]

It is, but quite a few schools have dropped: Hofstra, BU, Northeastern in the last 15 years. The bleeding will continue.

Don't forget..when Hofstra dropped football Stony Brook ramped up and upgraded to the CAA. The decision at Hofstra was more at the President level than anything else. This is also the same guy who hired Jeff Hathaway to be the AD there...enough said.

 

[Pudge]

What's the common bond of UALBANY & Stony Brook ... But not Hofstra?

State University of NY. Both built stadiums or massively expanded since Hofstra left the field. Both see Football at a higher and higher level as successful marketing of their Brand. Frankly, I think Hofstra is going to find that out rapidly. They've sunk in the minds of kids already. What distinguishes them from Manhattan or Iona?

 

[HuskiesFan1014]

Some in Maine, and I believe participation is down 12% in RI in the last ten years.

It's a tricky subject.
Some small schools in Maine have shut down football, but some towns in Maine have population declines as well. Here's an interesting fact from the Portland Press Herald:
"Indeed, in 2006, Maine high schools fielded 67 teams competing in three different classifications. Today there are 72 varsity programs eligible for postseason play in four classifications. In all, 3,663 boys played varsity football last fall – 409 fewer than a decade earlier."
So there are fewer players, but more teams over the past ten years.
Declines in Rhode Island as well (lowest number of high schoolers playing football in the past 12 years) can partially be blamed on large increases in the number of kids playing lacrosse and soccer. Urban communities have a larger influx of kids from Asian and Latino countries where soccer is the dominant sport, and there is definitely some impact from injuries and movies like "Concussion" on others. Despite a drop-off, however, the number of kids playing football still shows an increase if you trend the numbers back to the 1970's through today. Here's an interesting graph:

URI's been talking "drop it" for years, but much more buzz lately. No winning seasons since 2001, and no post-season play since 1985 will do that to you. The 84-7 beatdown by James Madison certainly didn't help.

 

[FDNY99]

What's the common bond of UALBANY & Stony Brook ... But not Hofstra?

State University of NY. Both built stadiums or massively expanded since Hofstra left the field. Both see Football at a higher and higher level as successful marketing of their Brand. Frankly, I think Hofstra is going to find that out rapidly. They've sunk in the minds of kids already. What distinguishes them from Manhattan or Iona?

Hofstra's President made a power play dumping football that has blown up in his face. I will say that Albany and Hofstra do have one thing in common...they are both located in a non-desirable location.

 

[Pudge]

Hofstra's President made a power play dumping football that has blown up in his face. I will say that Albany and Hofstra do have one thing in common...they are both located in a non-desirable location.

Have you been to Syracuse?

As a guy who schlepped to place Commercial Mortgages around upstate NY ... Syracuse was often just blacklisted by institutions. And Albany is ... sheep-like in consistency.

ON FOOTBALL terms ... there is this notion that WE in New England and New York just are a wasteland. In this world where there are 12 FBS programs in the State of Texas and 4 Power 5 Programs in North Carolina. Rutgers fans (NJ like you?) smirk about all their high ratings. Let us talk demographics - there are 39 million people in NY and NE. How does that contrast to a OK or MS? Football playing HS's dropping ... shizzle ... well I see major highly rated Prep schools raising their Football programs. Both in NJ (*Blair and Hun are far higher than 5-7 years ago) and the NE (*seems like all of them ... but certainly Taft and Cheshire are elevated far higher just in CT). These have to be more desirable than Last Chance U (or even the bogus Milford Academy).

At UAlbany, let me make a prediction: Greg Gattuso (former Edsall DL guy at Maryland and with Wannstedt at Pitt) is going to be a damn good HC. His recruiting will pick from MD and Western PA ... but he also can develop kids from the suburban and urban Upstate NY High Schools that have NOT been touched. Do you think Syracuse University ever fostered skills at the 8th grade to 11th grade level? This new Stadium at UAlbany is gorgeous and probably expandable to 15,000 and then 25,000 easy. This is not a low level plan. And, I know neither Buffalo nor Stony Brook is either. To keep up URI, Maine and UNH is going to have to pull them up dramatically ... and I think they are going to fall behind.

Will UAlbany or Stony Brook rise like Coastal Carolina or Georgia Southern to a higher tier? I think we are looking at a separation at the higher level. Certainly what Harbaugh is doing at Michigan looks far different than Maryland or Rutgers; and then Alabama or Clemson. Nothing immediate. But ... Cartels cheat. That is what participants do: Econ 101. I see separate revenue streams empowering the elite from the chaff. That will leave openings for the Buffalos ... but also Albany and Stony Brook. And UConn. Because Rutgers isn't safe forever either.

We see 5 New England kids on Michigan's Class list - thanks to Harbaugh and Don Brown. I can't remember that ever being the case. For UConn, we needed HCRE eye and a re-energized staff more than ever. And apparently, Edsall Jr is pitching in with kids from his Colorado computer.

 

[FDNY99]

Have you been to Syracuse?

As a guy who schlepped to place Commercial Mortgages around upstate NY ... Syracuse was often just blacklisted by institutions. And Albany is ... sheep-like in consistency.

ON FOOTBALL terms ... there is this notion that WE in New England and New York just is a wasteland. In this world where there are 12 FBS programs in the State of Texas and 4 Power 5 Programs in North Carolina. Rutgers fans (NJ like you?) smirk about all their high ratings. Let us talk demographics - there are 39 million people in NY and NE. How does that contrast to a OK or MS? Football playing HS's dropping ... shizzle ... well I see major highly rated Prep schools raising their Football programs. Both in NJ (*Blair and Hun are far higher than 5-7 years ago) and the NE (*seems like all of them ... but certainly Taft and Cheshire are elevated far higher just in CT). These have to be more desirable than Last Chance U (or even the bogus Milford Academy).

At UAlbany, let me make a prediction: Greg Gattuso (former Edsall DL guy at Maryland and with Wannstedt at Pitt) is going to be a damn good HC. His recruiting will pick from MD and Western PA ... but he also can develop kids from the suburban and urban Upstate NY High Schools that have NOT been touched. Do you think Syracuse University ever fostered skills at the 8th grade to 11th grade level? This new Stadium at UAlbany is gorgeous and probably expandable to 15,000 and then 25,000 easy. This is not a low level plan. And, I know neither Buffalo nor Stony Brook is either. To keep up URI, Maine and UNH is going to have to pull them up dramatically ... and I think they are going to fall behind.

Will UAlbany or Stony Brook rise like Coastal Carolina or Georgia Southern to a higher tier? I think we are looking at a separation at the higher level. Certainly what Harbaugh is doing at Michigan looks far different than Maryland or Rutgers; and then Alabama or Clemson. Nothing immediate. But ... Cartels cheat. That is what participants do: Econ 101. I see separate revenue streams empowering the elite from the chaff. That will leave openings for the Buffalos ... but also Albany and Stony Brook. And UConn. Because Rutgers isn't safe forever either.

We see 5 New England kids on Michigan's Class list - thanks to Harbaugh and Don Brown. I can't remember that ever being the case. For UConn, we needed HCRE eye and a re-energized staff more than ever. And apparently, Edsall Jr is pitching in with kids from his Colorado computer.

Yeah..the northern tier of Syracuse, Rochester and Buffalo are no bargain.

 

[upstater]

What's the common bond of UALBANY & Stony Brook ... But not Hofstra?

State University of NY. Both built stadiums or massively expanded since Hofstra left the field. Both see Football at a higher and higher level as successful marketing of their Brand. Frankly, I think Hofstra is going to find that out rapidly. They've sunk in the minds of kids already. What distinguishes them from Manhattan or Iona?

I seriously doubt anyone ever thought anything of Hofstra.

Boston U. plowed those football losses into academics, entered the AAU.

 

[BlueMAB]

I seriously doubt anyone ever thought anything of Hofstra.

Boston U. plowed those football losses into academics, entered the AAU.

Can we plow our football losses into academics and enter the AAU? The B1G would have to take notice.