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Message: [QUOTE="storrsroars, post: 2840223, member: 2500"] Baseball makes for better arguments because of all the advanced metrics crap that's out there. You want to tout your guy's superiority via OPS? I'm coming at you with wxOBA to prove he's just lucky and due a regression! I liked hoops into my 20s - was a huge ABA and Dr J fan at the start of when the NBA became a circus. Then I stopped caring once it became a total circus with the Rodman and AI era. I can appreciate what LeBron and Curry et.al. can do. I just don't care. I found other things to do with my time and I'm not going back. With the NFL, it had less to do with the play on the field than the culture and the mess that became football broadcasting and all the fantasy crap (and I played fantasy for a decade). Give me the old guys every day. Can't stand the shouting over each other, the esoteric breakdowns of meaningless crap, the Gruden-esque obfuscation of what should be pretty simple crap and the whole "warrior" b.s. mentality. It's a damned sport. It used to be fun. I risked significant injury playing it. It's now a chore to sit through. It's really amazing how much you can done on Sundays once you stop caring about the NFL. That said, I'll waste a whole Saturday watching football if the right slate of games is on. [/QUOTE]