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. . . "a date [not "day"] that shall live in infamy." He went on, in his historic speech to Congress, to describe Japan's "dastardly [a word to be typed with care] attack" on US Forces. :mad:

A separate hot topic: the current status of LadyVols basketball. I feel bad for Holly that her team is playing badly and it is my judgment that the (post-Pat) Tennessee women's basketball program needs a complete overhaul. (N.B. [nota bene, thanks UcM], VolNation agrees.)

While I am at it, a little Monday refresher:
- disinterested and uninterested have different meanings, one ("dis-") meaning neutral, the other ("un-") signifying not caring.
- Boneyarders are eager to watch the next game but the Colgate coach is surely anxious about the outcome.
- minuscule (not miniscule) and supersede (not supercede)

Care to add any? GO! :)
 
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. . . "a date [not "day"] that shall live in infamy." He went on, in his historic speech to Congress, to describe Japan's "dastardly [a word to be typed with care] attack" on US Forces. :mad:

A separate hot topic: the current status of LadyVols basketball. I feel bad for Holly that her team is playing badly and it is my judgment that the (post-Pat) Tennessee women's basketball program needs a complete overhaul. (N.B. [nota bene, thanks UcM], VolNation agrees.)

While I am at it, a little Monday refresher:
- disinterested and uninterested have different meanings, one ("dis-") meaning neutral, the other ("un-") signifying not caring.
- Boneyarders are eager to watch the next game but the Colgate coach is surely anxious about the outcome.'
- minuscule (not miniscule) and supersede (not supercede)

Care to add any? GO! :)
I am always anxious, with anxiety, and not as eager as one would think when Uconn plays Notre Dame or USC. I am uninterested in those who attend these games with disinterest.

Please note that all misspelled words, including Boneyarders, are underlined by the spelling properties of the word processing program used herein. If selected the program will present the correctly spelled word. Albeit the program usually does not understand whether you should UN of Dis, I assume it is a personal judgement allowed by the owners of the program.
 
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. . . "a date [not "day"] that shall live in infamy." He went on, in his historic speech to Congress, to describe Japan's "dastardly [a word to be typed with care] attack" on US Forces. :mad:

A separate hot topic: the current status of LadyVols basketball. I feel bad for Holly that her team is playing badly and it is my judgment that the (post-Pat) Tennessee women's basketball program needs a complete overhaul. (N.B. [nota bene, thanks UcM], VolNation agrees.)

While I am at it, a little Monday refresher:
- disinterested and uninterested have different meanings, one ("dis-") meaning neutral, the other ("un-") signifying not caring.
- Boneyarders are eager to watch the next game but the Colgate coach is surely anxious about the outcome.



- minuscule (not miniscule) and supersede (not supercede)

Care to add any? GO! :)
\Roosevelts speech on Dec 8th, 1941 was rhetoric as used by politicians. Words were used to incite and arouse. It set a tone for the words used in the rest of the war against Japan. Dastardly and cowardly are not friendly words. Sneak attack was used often in regards to the attack on Pearl Harbor.
 
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In continuing memory of, and appreciation for, those who lost their lives on that Dec 7, 1941 attack, for those who survived and served then, and for those who served since and now. God bless you. (I was alive on that day and remember with great clarity hearing the news for the first time. We were taking a ride to look at puppies and the pup owner told my dad when he knocked on the door.)
 

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. . . "a date [not "day"] that shall live in infamy." He went on, in his historic speech to Congress, to describe Japan's "dastardly [a word to be typed with care] attack" on US Forces. :mad:

A separate hot topic: the current status of LadyVols basketball. I feel bad for Holly that her team is playing badly and it is my judgment that the (post-Pat) Tennessee women's basketball program needs a complete overhaul. (N.B. [nota bene, thanks UcM], VolNation agrees.)

While I am at it, a little Monday refresher:
- disinterested and uninterested have different meanings, one ("dis-") meaning neutral, the other ("un-") signifying not caring.
- Boneyarders are eager to watch the next game but the Colgate coach is surely anxious about the outcome.
- minuscule (not miniscule) and supersede (not supercede)

Care to add any? GO! :)
Re Pearl: It's sad to think how every year passing means fewer and fewer of the men who were there being around. What a day that must have been.

As it happens, I googled the other day to see if there was a noun form of dastardly. There is: dastard. A "dishonorable or despicable person." Decided not to use it here on the BY. Too strong, even though I was funnin'.
 

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Re Pearl: It's sad to think how every year passing means fewer and fewer of the men who were there being around. What a day that must have been.

As it happens, I googled the other day to see if there was a noun form of dastardly. There is: dastard. A "dishonorable or despicable person." Decided not to use it here on the BY. Too strong, even though I was funnin'.
Hmmm. I wonder if there is anything that rhymes with "dastard"? ;)
 

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Re Pearl: It's sad to think how every year passing means fewer and fewer of the men who were there being around. What a day that must have been.

As it happens, I googled the other day to see if there was a noun form of dastardly. There is: dastard. A "dishonorable or despicable person." Decided not to use it here on the BY. Too strong, even though I was funnin'.

Another word that is easily misunderstood (as ugly and racist) is niggardly. One meaning is "parsimonious" and its origin (1571) predates the "N" word by a couple hundred years. Smart writers and speakers scrupulously avoid using it -- "stingy" or "cheap" both do the job and are hassle free. :cool:
 

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As a part of the yesterday focus on FDR's speech the complete record of FDR speeches was released.
 

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In continuing memory of, and appreciation for, those who lost their lives on that Dec 7, 1941 attack, for those who survived and served then, and for those who served since and now. God bless you. (I was alive on that day and remember with great clarity hearing the news for the first time. We were taking a ride to look at puppies and the pup owner told my dad when he knocked on the door.)


I lived 75 miles south of Chicago and remember the blackout shades, young men leaving to serve the country, rationing of nearly everything needed for everyday living, paper and metal drives by the scouts, and just a general feeling of apprehension by everyone. I wanted to be a soldier more than anything.
 

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From a military standpoint the attack was neither dastardly or cowardly, although it was declared a war crime post war (the winners get to write the history). It was a sneak attack which is an acceptable tactic (stealth bombers over Baghdad?). Targets hit were military. I think there were less than 100 civilian casualties (compare that to allied bombings later in the war). The attack was also a strategic failure pushing the US off the neutrality fence.

The last time I visited the Pearl Harbor Memorial there were a bunch of Japanese teenagers at the Arizona memorial. They were loud and a bit rowdy. There was also an elderly Japanese man there accompanied by one of the survivor docents. I like to think that he too was a survivor of the attack. The old man said something to the teenagers in a low voice. The result was immediate. There were bows and responses in Japanese that I assumed were apologies. If they were American teenagers I suspect they would have told him to duck* off.
 

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There was a little lot in the back of my apartment in the Bronx which was turned into a Victory Garden.
 

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From a military standpoint the attack was neither dastardly or cowardly, although it was declared a war crime post war (the winners get to write the history). It was a sneak attack which is an acceptable tactic (stealth bombers over Baghdad?). Targets hit were military. I think there were less than 100 civilian casualties (compare that to allied bombings later in the war). The attack was also a strategic failure pushing the US off the neutrality fence.
Well it is considered as such because there was no formal declaration of war or breaking off of negotiations prior to the attack. Whether that was due to bumbling or was intentional is still up for debate.
 

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Well it is considered as such because there was no formal declaration of war or breaking off of negotiations prior to the attack. Whether that was due to bumbling or was intentional is still up for debate.

The movie, "Tora, Tora, Tora!" seemed to provide an objective and believable account of what went wrong.
 

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In my opinion it is probably the best Pearl Harbor movie. I watch it every couple of years.

From the Wikipedia Article on the movie . . .

"The Japanese intend to break off negotiations at 1:00 pm, 30 minutes before the attack. However, the typist for the Japanese ambassador is slow, and cannot translate and transcribe the 14th message quickly enough to meet the deadline. A final attempt to warn Pearl Harbor is stymied by poor atmospherics that prevent radio transmission, and bungling when a warning sent by telegram is not marked urgent; it will be received by Pearl Harbor after the attack. Apparently no one thought of contacting Hawaii via telephone."

I've always believed that account to be true, along with the portrayal of the communication bungling on the US side.
"Scapegoats: A defense of Kimmel and Short at Pearl Harbor" is a good read presenting the situation leading to the attack and the aftermath.
 

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Well it is considered as such because there was no formal declaration of war or breaking off of negotiations prior to the attack. Whether that was due to bumbling or was intentional is still up for debate.
What about the "sneak attacks" by recent terrorists in our country? I don't believe that any Japanese in the 48 states attacked American citizens; but after being attacked now by the present-day terrorists, Trump is being criticized by many. Thousands of Japanese(at that time) were place in internment camps. Nothing will be done, in the present time, until many more American citizens are killed........it is really sad.
 

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What about the "sneak attacks" by recent terrorists in our country? I don't believe that any Japanese in the 48 states attacked American citizens; but after being attacked now by the present-day terrorists, Trump is being criticized by many. Thousands of Japanese(at that time) were place in internment camps. Nothing will be done, in the present time, until many more American citizens are killed...it is really sad.
That's the difference between terrorism and war under Geneva Conventions.
 

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That's the difference between terrorism and war under Geneva Conventions.
When Pearl Harbor was attacked, we were not at war.
 
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What about the "sneak attacks" by recent terrorists in our country? I don't believe that any Japanese in the 48 states attacked American citizens; but after being attacked now by the present-day terrorists, Trump is being criticized by many. Thousands of Japanese(at that time) were place in internment camps. Nothing will be done, in the present time, until many more American citizens are killed...it is really sad.
Were you condoning the encampment of Japanese Americans during th WWII?
 

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Were you condoning the encampment of Japanese Americans during th WWII?
What I was trying to say was: that at times when the lives of American citizens are endangered, no matter if it is 1941, or 2015, I support any government actions which protect our people. I believe the #1 responsibility of a government is save its people from harm.
 
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What I was trying to say was: that at times when the lives of American citizens are endangered, no matter if it is 1941, or 2015, I support any government actions which protect our people. I believe the #1 responsibility of a government is save its people from harm.
According to the Declaration, there is but one purpose for government: to secure rights.
 

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According to the Declaration, there is but one purpose for government: to secure rights.
The Declaration was a statement of our freedom from England.
The "law of the land" is the Constitution.
Ronald Reagan summed it up best: "Government's first duty is to protect the people."
.....no more statements from me about government(on a basketball site).
 
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