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Message: [QUOTE="Pudge, post: 2897683, member: 364"] There are a lot of upstate connectivity. Tim Welch’s Father was a SUNY Coach. Pitino is around frequently in the Saratoga season. The Boeheim tree. But the Albany Patroon gang - tied to the County Executive Jim Coyne who went to jail for graft - was Phil Jackson & Charlie Rosen & George Karl & the Musselmans. Bill Musselman was an incredible man and story. My father was a coach in college - which meant we had a green card that got us in all college & HS games free. Then the CBA. Great fun rite of passage [/QUOTE]