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Message: [QUOTE="uconnell, post: 3148969, member: 180"] Same thing happened to my grandson. We worked at the same place and he would drive me home at lunch time and drive back to work. I warned him about a. Urge on a hill that is always shady and icy in that one spot. Guess he forgot cause he hit the ice and went up an embankment which stopped him from going into the woods. He wasn’t hurt but scared himself. Managed to drive down to a parking lot with a bent wheel and flat tire. He was still shook up when he got picked up. Was my car but I didn’t get angry. [/QUOTE]