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Message: [QUOTE="tzznandrew, post: 3128883, member: 168"] Well... people who said that were dumb. Doherty was there 3 years, only had 1 losing season, and they had gone to a Final Four the year before he started coaching. They also had multiple national titles. St. John's has no titles. Two Final Fours ever, and the last over 30 years ago. It's been two decades since an Elite 8. There have been 10 losing seasons in the last 2 decades. The difference between this and UNC is the difference between Achilles and a very fast turtle. [/QUOTE]