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Message: [QUOTE="temery, post: 2136232, member: 1"] Same here. I posted in a kayak forum just a few days ago: [URL="https://forums.paddling.com/discussion/2934935/dagger-redline-white-water-kayak#latest"]Dagger Redline White Water Kayak[/URL] [I]If you aren't going to kayak whitewater, do not get a whitewater kayak. You will hate it. It's made to turn quickly in whitewater, not paddle straight on mild rivers & lakes. You should be looking at a recreational kayak, 12-14 foot length. If you plan to advance your skills and do overnight paddling trips, or do longer distances in moderate conditions, then get a longer touring kayak. Find a local touring kayak or canoe shop and talk with them. See what they offer and test paddle some different kayaks. Then start looking at your local craigslist to see what you can find used that is the same or similar to what you test paddled.[/I] [I][/I] [/QUOTE]