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Message: [QUOTE="ctchamps, post: 2427832, member: 37"] That’s not the stupid part. The stupid part is to expect fans from another university to care. The majority of posters in this forum laugh at Cuse’s Helms trophies. It’s human nature to ridicule other people’s (tribes) successes. Now if you came to this forum celebrating that success you only would have heard ridicule from deep. In fact that’s exactly what happened. And people pushed back. Women laugh at men. Men laugh at women. For the most part most people take it in stride. Occasionally something is said or done that crosses someone’s line. The problem is that the line is different for each one of us thus making it difficult to always know what we should avoid saying or doing. Ultimately it comes down to someone imposing their will on someone else about how we should do things. Quite often we don’t realize that this is about each of us trying to assert our will over others. For the record my opinion aligns with defending against mistreatment of any group. But no issue is simply either/or. [/QUOTE]