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OT:Nerlens Noel,Shabazz Muhammad and Tony Parker announce the same day

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So is it official now that noel is class of '12? I feel like it changes in every article about him
 
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ok thanks. haven't paid much attention to the recruiting scene this year
 
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So UK is the favorite for all of them? It would be nice to see Noel go to Georgetown, but I don't see it happening.
 

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Kentucky is to recruiting what the Yankees are to free agency: if they really want a guy, they're gonna get him.
 
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Its total bs what Kentucky is doing. If you look at the top 20 players in any class, almost all of them have been talking to Kentucky, I'm sure they were the first team to call Oriakhi, and will land as many players as they need for next years freshman class. I can't wait until the NCAA hops off our d's and checks out Calapari and his NBA roster.
 
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UK is a farm system, in reality this is an example where the 1 year thing is not working. Force kids to be 3 years removed from HS like NFL or just eliminate it altogether.


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While it seems to have worked this year- mostly because TJ stayed in school- I just don't see the allure of having no upperclassmen and playing with one and dones every single year. I guess these kids are all just waiting to cash a check- so why not got to UK?

Question- HTF is UK not in trouble with their APR?
 
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I think the APR is determined by the status, not comings and goings as much.

If the case of UK, 2 things, 1st off, a plant could gain admission there and I think UK is set up as a 1 year factor, minimal credit load, general courses, basic 100. Not as though there is any lie or pretending these kids aren't "stupid athletes."

While it seems to have worked this year- mostly because TJ stayed in school- I just don't see the allure of having no upperclassmen and playing with one and dones every single year. I guess these kids are all just waiting to cash a check- so why not got to UK?

Question- HTF is UK not in trouble with their APR?
 

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UK is a farm system, in reality this is an example where the 1 year thing is not working. Force kids to be 3 years removed from HS like NFL or just eliminate it altogether.

There's really no good way to go about it ... the fact of the matter is that an 18-year-old basketball kid is sometimes just ready to make the leap to the professional level. In the other major sports that's rarely, if ever, the case.
 
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Question- HTF is UK not in trouble with their APR?

I think players leaving for the pros don't hurt APR if they're eligible and in good standing for the following season.
 
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UK is a farm system, in reality this is an example where the 1 year thing is not working. Force kids to be 3 years removed from HS like NFL or just eliminate it altogether.

Something tells me you wouldn't be singing this tune if it was us pulling in all these top recruits. Until they get caught by the NCAA doing something against the rules, I'm not sure we have a leg to stand on.
 

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I think players leaving for the pros don't hurt APR if they're eligible and in good standing for the following season.

Does their second semester even count if they go pro? Essentially they go to UK for one semester, take some Life 101 classes, play some ball, and jet out. Ain't that the life!
 

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Something tells me you wouldn't be singing this tune if it was us pulling in all these top recruits. Until they get caught by the NCAA doing something against the rules, I'm not sure we have a leg to stand on.
I agree. The article on Calimari giving the one and dones a showcase for their talent at a RESPECTABLE, top school and making no bones about it will continue to draw them in. He really doesn't have to cheat like he did at UMass and Memphis (or he hasn't been caught yet).
 

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Does their second semester even count if they go pro? Essentially they go to UK for one semester, take some Life 101 classes, play some ball, and jet out. Ain't that the life!
No, they don't have to go to classes - the APR is a self reporting issue so if a school doesn't even report a violation who would know - that is what makes this all so stupid.
 
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Does their second semester even count if they go pro? Essentially they go to UK for one semester, take some Life 101 classes, play some ball, and jet out. Ain't that the life!

I believe it does, but since they're not really pursuing a degree they can load up on things like Trail-walking and Basket-weaving.
 
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Something tells me you wouldn't be singing this tune if it was us pulling in all these top recruits. Until they get caught by the NCAA doing something against the rules, I'm not sure we have a leg to stand on.

Yup. I love how we pretend that kids like Gidd-Gilchrist and Unibrow are mercenaries just hanging out for a year to cash a check while the kids at UConn just happen to be good basketball players but their real passion is history or biochemistry or some ****.
 

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Kentucky is to recruiting what the Yankees are to free agency: if they really want a guy, they're gonna get him.

And just like the Yankees they lose most years. 1 out of the last 11 with the best team money can buy. Pretty pathetic really.
 
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He's been there 3 years. He's made 2 final fours and is still playing. That 19" collar is cutting off the blood to that oversized dome of yours.
 

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I saw an interview with Muhammad. He seems to be very bright and a good kid. I found myself liking him until the whole going to Kentucky thing came back into my mind. He doesn't seem like a typical Kentucky recruit (except for him being a top recruit) but then again neither did Brandon Knight who was a top student. Were we ever involved with him? With the wings we've sent to the pros and the championships, you'd have thought we would gave been a good fit. I think the post season ban, uncertainty about JC and kids prefering a wide open style of play to the physical Big East style is kiiling our chances with the super talented kids.
 

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The big lie in the APR system - and I'm not defending UConn's problems because Harvard we are not, but neither are we Southeast Central West Podunk State - is that the universities are all over the lot when it comes to what it takes for students generally to progress and even then, all too often the athletes are treated differently. Namely, the sort of courses required, the majors that a huge % of the athletes in the school strangely coincidentally share in common, the kids having athlete-friendly profs, that sort of garbage.

It cannot be very difficult for a school like Kentucky to make sure that the 1 and 2 year players in their Calipari pro production factory have the grades to look like they are students in good standing when they leave. How many of UConn's kids who left early to turn pro were not in good academic standing when they left? Wasn't it mostly other players who caused the APR issue? But it's not UK's fault for playing within the rules and I agree with the comment that UConn fans would drool to have the kind of entering classes that Calipari is bringing. But one does wonder how a guy with his lack of less than truly overwhelming success and even at that, heavily tarnished even though the KU folks want to believe that he was just another poor victim of forces beyond his control, has these kids lining up to play for him at good ol' KU. The NCAA seems not to be all that curious.
 
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