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Message: [QUOTE="Northbound, post: 3267872, member: 155"] I lived in Manhattan for 20 years for work and at some point there is no more allure to the city. I still come to the apartment occasionally and we're thankful we have it for a variety of reasons, but the city, to live in, is horrible to me at this point and the only thing I can imagine being worse is the suburbs. I'm happy on more than 25 acres where I can't see the neighbors houses, who have 400 and 250 acres respectively, I can do whatever the hell I want, when I want - if I want to split wood at 10PM I can do that, have friends over and drink a few beers and plink cans with a .22, we can - they don't run water to those places. [/QUOTE]