OT: Michael Porter Junior/Senior

[Huskyforlife]

From the looks of it, Missouri hiring pops is going to land them his number one rated son. Who in turn may help them land fellow top ten player Kevin Knox, and all but secured a commitment from top 30 big man Jeremiah Tilmon.

My point being, this is how you land players now. Memphis did it with the Lawsons, Freakin Missouri might get two top 30 players.

If it were up to me, RJ Barretts dad would have a job tomorrow.

 

[aceboon]

Ok

 

[tcf15]

Really worked out well for Memphis, didn't it?

 

[Walker11]

Great long term plan.

 

[UConn Esq]

Porter committed.

 

[Burnsbros23]

If the dad is a qualified coach sure. But needs to bring more than his son.

 

[pj]

Washington should have done everything to get Markelle Fultz to commit. A potential #1 pick in the NBA draft, he would make their program. Wait - how did that work out?

You can't disrupt your coaching staff to get one player, especially if he's around for only one year. If you do that, you are saying your coaching staff sucks.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Why are schools doing this if it doesn't make sense? I think Missouri will be much better next year with Porter Jr, rather than an assistant coach. Memphis would've been nothing without the Lawsons.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Really worked out well for Memphis, didn't it?

What would Memphis record look like without the Lawsons?

 

[Huskyforlife]

Great long term plan.

Success breeds success in most cases, they would be better set up for the future.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Hypothetical:

Swap Moore/Killings for Porter Senior, you gain the three players mentioned in the OP, would anyone not do that?

 

[Jluc]

Hypothetical:

Swap Moore/Killings for Porter Senior, you gain the three players mentioned in the OP, would anyone not do that?

Okay and what would you do when two of those three players are gone after next year?

 

[Huskyforlife]

Okay and what would you do when two of those three players are gone after next year?

Recruit new players? Coming off a winning season will make it easier to recruit players, it sets them up for long term success.

 

[Stainmaster]

Recruit new players? Coming off a winning season will make it easier to recruit players, it sets them up for long term success.

To echo those above me, what kind of long-term success did Memphis or UW get?

 

[Walker11]

Hypothetical:

Swap Moore/Killings for Porter Senior, you gain the three players mentioned in the OP, would anyone not do that?

This is a measure for a desperate program. We may fall there some day, but not yet. You aren't even assured 1 good season (see LSU an UW). Smart programs will get the parent a job in a position outside of the school, i.e. the Duke way.

 

[tcf15]

What would Memphis record look like without the Lawsons?

Well, they were 19-15 and 19-13 in the two seasons with them. Record would probably be worse, but it didn't really help them, and now they are all moving on.

No idea if Porter Sr., who just completed his first year coaching in men's basketball, can even coach and/or recruit.

Give me the guy that discovered Markelle Fultz who has a proven track record as an ace recruiter.

 

[Huskyforlife]

To echo those above me, what kind of long-term success did Memphis or UW get?

Washington had Fultz fall in their lap, different situation, after many years of previous mediocrity. Pastner left Memphis, they were simply unlucky. Missouri starting fresh with Martin sets them up with a new identity, if these players carry them deep into the tournament, that's something he can sell to future recruits. UConn could use a season like this to restore faith in KO, and our NBA presence is slipping.

 

[Huskyforlife]

This is a measure for a desperate program. We may fall there some day, but not yet. You aren't even assured 1 good season (see LSU an UW). Smart programs will get the parent a job in a position outside of the school, i.e. the Duke way.

I thought about that as well, makes even more sense. I figured my scenario would make for a better discussion, plus it's really happening at Missouri.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Well, they were 19-15 and 19-13 in the two seasons with them. Record would probably be worse, but it didn't really help them, and now they are all moving on.

No idea if Porter Sr., who just completed his first year coaching in men's basketball, can even coach and/or recruit.

Give me the guy that discovered Markelle Fultz who has a proven track record as an ace recruiter.

They'd be much worse, it'd be like taking Adams off UConn last year, etc. Although we can't be sure, I'm guessing they're moving on because their dad already got his money, and Pastner moved on.

I didn't say Chillious either.

 

[gtcam]

None of that hiring BS is worth a one and done.
When all 3 players leave after next March and Mizzou doesn't make the tournament - what have they gained?
This is a stop gap effort, a quick fix, by an athletic department that is on skid row

 

[tcf15]

They'd be much worse, it'd be like taking Adams off UConn last year, etc. Although we can't be sure, I'm guessing they're moving on because their dad already got his money, and Pastner moved on.

I didn't say Chillious either.

Misread that, but honestly, it doesn't change anything for me. Porter, Sr. brings you his two sons, but nothing else really. Similar to Keelon Lawson Sr. who didn't bring in any other recruits aside from his sons.

Tilmon's interest in Missouri has more to do with Cuonzo Martin than it does Porter, Jr.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Misread that, but honestly, it doesn't change anything for me. Porter, Sr. brings you his two sons, but nothing else really. Similar to Keelon Lawson Sr. who didn't bring in any other recruits aside from his sons.

Tilmon's interest in Missouri has more to do with Cuonzo Martin than it does Porter, Jr.

My point is Missouri will be better with Porter, than without him, any other players he helps bring in is gravy. Once he's gone, you hire a real assistant, and try to recruit normally.

 

[upstater]

What would Memphis record look like without the Lawsons?

How many recruits does Memphis lose because other players are being featured by influenced from their Dads?

 

[TRest]

I remember Memphis fans telling us a couple of years ago that Lawson was a legit coach, because his high school team (featuring his talented sons), was undefeated.

It only works if the father has any long-term ability to be an asset on your bench after junior takes a hike.

 

[TRest]

How many recruits does Memphis lose because other players are being featured by influenced from their Dads?

Supposedly the father is a nut job, which must really be appealing to everyone involved. Watch him end up at Georgetown for a landing spot. Pure guess.