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Message: [QUOTE="pinotbear, post: 2320222, member: 258"] Just as an aside, I think that most of "us", male golfers of less-than-excellence, ought to be watching the LPGA broadcasts occasionally. The PGA tour players hit drives 300 yds, pitching wedges 150, they play 600 yd par 5s and 485 yd par 4s. Overall, the courses they play are well over 7,000 yds, typically. The LPGA players play clubs, holes, and courses much closer in length to what you or I might have to deal with, albeit at a much more proficient level. I enjoy watching them attack a 380-yd par 4, or a 6400 yd course. That's familiar to me, and I like seeing how they go about it. [/QUOTE]