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Message: [QUOTE="Bronx23, post: 2572617, member: 8501"] Again without being intimately involved in all the behaviors of the player and the reaction and decision making by the coach it's impossible to know what truly went on here. There are two very valid sides to this complex debate. Coaches and teachers need to have high standards and hold their students accountable for their behaviors. Also there are some kids, and this can be from inner city public schools or some kids whose parents have a lot more financially and give their kids a sense of entitlement. I've had a lot of recent experience with foster kids in NYC who some describe as "throwaways". Every child, teenager and young adult needs a support system and sense of being cared for in order to first survive and then hopefully to excel in sports and life. All I am saying is there might be an argument for each side here and yes there also needs to be a point when enough is enough. Again, it's impossible to know in this or any situation what was done and what else could or should have been done. I am not a bleeding heart liberal just someone who knows we have to put ourselves in someone else's shoes to try and do what's best for that specific student as well as all the other students. Bronx23 [/QUOTE]